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Valuable Records (2/2) Caldari standings loss

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Badah Bing
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-02-22 04:53:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Badah Bing
I have been offered the Valuable Records (2/2) mission. The mission description warns that I will lose standing with Caldari State because the mission involves destroying a ship at a hidden station (no Concord, just standing loss). The main reason I'm running missions is to increase my standing with Caldari State. I've only been playing a few weeks and my Caldari standing is 2.70 now. The mission has been offered... should I accept it or decline? Raising faction standing seems to take so long that I'd rather not move in the wrong direction. There's really no indication of how much standing I'll gain or lose here.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-22 11:18:46 UTC
I can't find info on that Mission, so I should decline it.
It is not listed here:

http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports#V

A ship kill can cost you about a 0.4 standing loss...........
But as alway's, the OP has to decide.

Good luck & Fly safe
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-02-22 22:08:21 UTC
Actually gaining Faction standing is easier than what most players think.

Check out Event Agents, granted there's only a limited amount of agents available and after running through all of those agents, the only option left besides doing 16 regular missions to get a storyline offer is to complete Epic Arcs every 3 months.

As for completing Anti-Empire encounter missions, yeah, that's up to you.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-02-22 22:17:18 UTC
DMC, do you happen to have any information about this particular mission? Information is scarce, but it seems to be a Caldari mission -- so if you accept it you end up losing standings for failing or losing standings for finishing the objectives. But perhaps my google-fu is just weak today.
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-22 23:20:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ifly Uwalk
My memory is very hazy on this but I believe this mission is related to the datacenter agents; not the ones that simply ask you for tags but the one or two that actually make you go someplace. I'd decline that mission tbh.

Edit: seems it's related to the circle agents: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=490450
Badah Bing
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-02-23 01:23:56 UTC
Thanks for your replies! Sorry if I did not give enough info. Yes, I believe it is part of the circle agents sequence. I originally got onto it by going to a data center in Ahtulaima and getting the 'Graduation Certificate' mission from Tillen Matsu. Then from Tillen to another agent who gave me 'Celestial Imperative', then during that mission another agent named Kikko Roisen gave me the Valuable Records mission.

It is marked as an important storyline mission, so I didn't know if declining it would result in a standings loss worse than destroying the one ship. I have another week until the mission expires.

On a side note, yes, I have run one other data center mission. Collecting 20 silver tags. Destroyed 50+ pirates, found no tags at all, and realized I'd need to buy them. Cost me a good chunk of my ISK but I've worked it back up a bit. Heh.

Thanks for your replies. Glad to find that the community is responsive to noob questions.



DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-02-23 03:05:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Zhilia Mann wrote:
DMC, do you happen to have any information about this particular mission? Information is scarce, but it seems to be a Caldari mission -- so if you accept it you end up losing standings for failing or losing standings for finishing the objectives. But perhaps my google-fu is just weak today.


Yeah, seems it's the 2-part mission series gained from an agent while working the 5-part mission series offered from the agent listed on the Cert gained from the Data Center Agents.

It's been a long time since I've completed those missions but I believe it's mandatory to complete the 2-part series in order to complete the 5-part series. Back when I did those missions, Part 4 of 'The Celestial Imperative' gave the 2-part mission series 'The Hapless Thief'. I guess CCP has changed it. Or maybe I'm just not remembering correctly.

Completing those will give you 2 different Faction standing gains which will vastly outweigh the negative hit for the single ship kill. I'm not even sure if you do incur a negative ship kill standing hit for completing that mission. Like I said, it's been a long time.

Personally I would just complete the mission series. The amount of gain is way more than the amount of loss. If you're really worried about it, have an alt or another character destroy the NPC ship in question.

Just remember that completing Event Agent missions will usually incur positive and negative standings towards all Factions.

EDIT:
Back when I did them, these were the mission chains and side chains gained from the Agent listed on the Data Center 'Certs'.

Gallente = 'Beizan Picholen' leads to 'The Plot Thickens'.
Amarr = 'Quelling the Insurgency' leads to 'Choonka's Request'.
Caldari = 'The Celestial Imperative' leads to 'The Hapless Thief'.
Minmatar = 'Shaman Secrets' leads to 'Snatching the Shaman' (Decline that mission and talk to agent again to be offered 'The Shaman's Will', complete that and talk to agent again to receive 'Snatching the Shaman' offer again.)
Willemina Shakspeare
Divided Unity
#8 - 2012-02-29 09:16:40 UTC
I just did this mission and olso tried to find some info on it before I did it because the mission description says that "you will lose face with Caldari". After reading your post and the answers I decided to do everything anyway and see what happend.

So these where my modefied standings with Caldari:

Before Valuable Records:

5.06

After Valuable Records:

5.15

After The Celestial Imperative (5 of 5):

5.19

So not a standings loss with Caldari, did not check my other standings so I dont know if anything else got changed.

Hope this helps.

/Will