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Armor tanker wanna-be
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Daracon Rage
The Executives
#1 - 2012-02-22 00:25:16 UTC
Hey guys

Quick question as I've got my first battleship (megathron) and am really happy with it but I have some questions about the fitting for armor tanking level 4's - At the moment I'm training Hull Upgrades 5 and Mechanics 5 (for t2 active armor hardners and t2 armor repairer, respectively).

My question is will these skills and modules make that much of a difference and if not are there any others I can use to help withstand the assault?

Atm I'm tanking for mission specific damage with t1 active hardners.

Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-02-22 00:31:57 UTC
Without escalating the cost of the modules considerably not really, best bet is to go for the t2 rep and hardeners they'll give you excellent bang for your buck and do give a noticeable difference

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#3 - 2012-02-22 00:34:20 UTC
Yes, but its really expensive (faction mods/guns/etc). I'd recommend backing down to a Rail Myrm if you haven't got T2 reps yet. Well, unless it works for you already in which case keep on rocking.

-Liang

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-02-22 00:52:21 UTC
I found it best to get every T2 variant of the modules you use, but use Meta 4's when you have run short on PG or CPU

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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#5 - 2012-02-22 03:19:59 UTC
When did Mega become gallente noob mission boat? I always thought Domi was the king of this.

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Daracon Rage
The Executives
#6 - 2012-02-22 03:24:17 UTC
Cuz the mega is sexy and the domi looks like a solid nugget I rid myself of this morning haha.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2012-02-22 11:31:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Ahrieman wrote:
When did Mega become gallente noob mission boat? I always thought Domi was the king of this.

I would assume the Fitting Buff helped a lot with this, 425mm's are not near as much as a ***** to fit. Between all the little buffs to Damage, Tracking and Cap Use the Mega is definitely a lot more viable then it used to be and the Tracking Bonus / 1 TC helps a lot all well when using long guns.

That and Skill Training. T2 Sentries take quite a while whilst Meta 4 Rails do not. People tend to get T2 Small / Med Drones and leave a whole bunch of the Drone Support Skills lacking as well preferring to go Gunnery which is right up the Megathrons alley. What is more Guns are simpler, most newbies have to research the Sentry Dom or get directed to it to see its value as it is a very specialized setup to a new player and using slow Heavies in Missions as most would assume are lacking do to speed. Guns are simpler to wrap a new players head around, everyone understands Guns and as stated boy does the Mega do Guns well. Aesthetics wise the Mega is also considered by most people to be an amazing looking Ship while the Dominix has mixed opinions and this counts for a lot when coming to new players.

Finally their has always been an interest in the Mega PvE wise on the Forum, so what is the big difference. In the past everyone who types PvE Mega into the Thread Title gets 10 immediate follow up posts that say use a Sentry Dominix followed by 10 more explaining what it is and how to use it. Since the buff a 425mm Mega can be fit, can be accurate with a TC and can get some pretty good DPS so the get another ship statement has been pretty much replaced with Megathron Fitting Advice.

Since the Sentry Dominix only really gets superior after T2 Sentries and before that 425mm Meta 4's > T1 Sentries you can probably expect a lot more Megathron centric Advice when it comes to Gal PvE.

Edit: Missed This

Daracon Rage wrote:
Cuz the mega is sexy and the domi looks like a solid nugget I rid myself of this morning haha.

See, Aesthetics.

I like the Dominix though, it looks ancient just like in the description.

[Megathron, PvE]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed

425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


Little fit suggestion to consider. You definitely want a T2 Tank, I consider it a training priority.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-02-22 14:20:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
Ahrieman wrote:
When did Mega become gallente noob mission boat? I always thought Domi was the king of this.


You thought wrong, unless you're running bot programs or the guy afk slow boating to next gate whilst playing other games/youpørn whatever. Megathron properly fitted with maxx skills and after recent ammo changes is a mission BS/BC killer, your Domi drones will never get to them that fast and Mega can still take our frigs whilst raping bigger targets.

EDIT: because it's a very important step with Mega, you rather train your tank/engineering skills asap and guns later. Meta 4's rails with faction ammo does a decent dps, you should also have decent drone skills and use hobgobs II's and hammers II's.

I did the same path at my beginning: train straight for that nasty looking Megathron, well bad news my friend, Megathron requires a very high pack of lvl5 skills to be used at his max potential. This means over a year full engineering/electronics/drones/navigation/gunnery skills. You rather be patient or use afk Dominix.
Alara IonStorm
#9 - 2012-02-22 14:32:40 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
your Domi drones will never get to them that fast and Mega can still take our frigs whilst raping bigger targets.

Sentry Drones do instant Damage.

[Dominix, Sentry]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Garde II x5
Curator II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

You can get very impressive damage with a Sentry Domi at the cost of sitting still until you kill everything.
Unimaginative Pilot
Horngry
Quafe Liberation Front
#10 - 2012-02-23 01:03:07 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Ahrieman wrote:
When did Mega become gallente noob mission boat? I always thought Domi was the king of this.


Daracon Rage wrote:
Cuz the mega is sexy and the domi looks like a solid nugget I rid myself of this morning haha.

See, Aesthetics.

I like the Dominix though, it looks ancient just like in the description.

[Megathron, PvE]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed

425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


Little fit suggestion to consider. You definitely want a T2 Tank, I consider it a training priority.


Drop a hardener for a third magstab. LOng as the tanks t2 that should work fine. Also drop the locus for a aux pump maybe?