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Jev North
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-02-22 15:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jev North
I applaud your energy, respect your anger, but near laughed my head off at the perfect circularity. It's been noted how the abused tend to become abusers, and oppressed the new oppressors, but seldom does it happen so.. loudly.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#22 - 2012-02-22 15:55:50 UTC
All of this could have been avoided had he simply had the forethought to buy a proper supply of Vitoc for his kin. I'm sure the Holder wouldn't have taken issue.

Khanid Transport makes special deliveries, you know.
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#23 - 2012-02-22 18:18:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Rall Mekin
Dilaro thagriin wrote:

Rall, I would suggest you read the third section of my original statement again. YOU are part of the cause. along with others, you allow Nation forces free reign over this cluster for weeks at a time, any why? because the pay is better that way.
You and your kind disgust me.


I reviewed your text log, and it looks the same as when I first read it. I will comment, though, that in your original post you complain that not enough is being done about the Sansha, and when I mention that I have actually bothered to lift my hand against them, you accuse me? Any empathy I might have felt for you continues to vanish the more childlike you behave.

I suppose you are referring to the alleged delay by the broader capsuleer population in killing the eventual Sansha supercarrier. I do not feel that the current payout for those enlisted against the mothership is sufficient for me to risk either The Black Tide, my nightmare, or Khanid Victory, my Tengu, into service. These ships are quite expensive, and if I am to fly them into a battle that fierce, I suspect that ISk that I am to be compensated must be raised sharply. Current payouts versus risk are far too low for me to fly an asset as expensive as those listed above into a battle that fierce. After all, I am helping to kill a supercarrier, not a few battleships or frigates. When Concord fronts the money, I will be glad to assist in more slaughter--unelss you care to put your money where your mouth is, and forward me a 1.5 billion isk refundable deposit as guarantee of my assets' reimbursement, out of which I will withhold 750 million isk upon successful completion of my defense of New Eden, returning to you the difference. I'm sorry, you understand I am a businessman as well as a Eutopian futurist and idealist. I fly to very few people's defense for free.

By the way, you still have not addressed to anyone why you did nothing about your relative's condition. You could have done as Esan Vartesa points out. Vitoc isn't that expensive after all.
Dilaro thagriin
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-02-22 21:21:14 UTC
Jev. You think i seek to opress? perhaps you should think again.

Esan. you think I did not arrange for a supply that would have lasted more than her possible lifespan. You are wrong. The supply was there, and, unless you can find proof otherwise, the only reason i can see that it was not administered is that it was withheld.

My mother decided to stay on the planet in question, primarily because of her choice of religious belief. That was her choice and i respected it. arranging through financial means a sympathetic holder, and a steady supply of Vitoc, until a supply of Insorum could be found. She chose to place her trust in the people of that place, and it was a poor choice.

Rall. once again you speak of payment. ISK. you are happy to allow nation to have free access to any system they choose, because of your own avarice. Your own greed.
you claim you 'lift your hand against' the sansha, but the truth is you hold out your hands to CONCORD, begging for a handout. and then have the nerve to claim that they do not pay you enough.

This cluster and all within it are self destructive and hateful of one another. All attempts to forge a peace have been crushed under the unrelenting sound of those who do nothing but beat the drums of war.

All i am doing is helping the cluster towards it's inevitable fate. then, and only then will all the people have peace.
Then we will see and end to war.

They say this cluster was once beautiful. When the smoke finally clears, it will be again.
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#25 - 2012-02-22 22:31:40 UTC
Grr!
Argh!
Angst!

This all sounds like something scrawled on the bathroom stalls at a Sabik-themed nightclub in Luminaire.

Stop your sobbing, and let the silly EoM people in your corp tell you how to justify the dumb with the miraculous help of their tiny cult.

That is where people like you belong.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#26 - 2012-02-22 22:50:15 UTC
Graelyn wrote:
This all sounds like something scrawled on the bathroom stalls at a Sabik-themed nightclub in Luminaire.


And what were you doing in said club on Luminaire to possibly know that?

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#27 - 2012-02-22 23:12:14 UTC
Jev North wrote:
I applaud your energy, respect your anger, but near laughed my head off at the perfect circularity. It's been noted how the abused tend to become abusers, and oppressed the new oppressors, but seldom does it happen so.. loudly.



How interesting that I was thinking this very same thing, he seeks a dark future full of despair, just like the one he experienced in his own private hell. I suppose misery, really does love company.


All I can say to the EoM cultists is this:
Let the True Messiah, show you the way, let him show you that you can leave all the emotions of conflict behind and exist in a True Unity with the rest of humanity. Burning New Eden will not help anyone, it is our duty as human beings to find a way out of the circle of conflict that is never ending, against the dystopian regimes that would have you believe there is no alternative.

Your apathy to this duty is appalling, as one has already found a solution and it is hubris to stand against this, and blasphemous to not acknowledge it. I can only hope that once he finds you, the Master can show you the error of your ways, and you will serve society rather than try and destroy it.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-02-23 00:02:34 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Graelyn wrote:
This all sounds like something scrawled on the bathroom stalls at a Sabik-themed nightclub in Luminaire.


And what were you doing in said club on Luminaire to possibly know that?


Was it "Mauvaise Intention"? They have an excellent VIP section.

And speaking of bathroom walls, the ladies' room did have a lovely "..For a good time call Graelyn" with a simply -adorable- little cartoon.

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-02-23 00:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
*Damnable IGS programming bugs*

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Dilaro thagriin
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-02-23 00:09:48 UTC
Valentina. I sincerely hope that if your vaunted master finds me, it is in person... my new sidearm needs to be blooded, and I can think of no better target.
Boma Airaken
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-02-23 01:53:07 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Jev North wrote:
I applaud your energy, respect your anger, but near laughed my head off at the perfect circularity. It's been noted how the abused tend to become abusers, and oppressed the new oppressors, but seldom does it happen so.. loudly.



How interesting that I was thinking this very same thing, he seeks a dark future full of despair, just like the one he experienced in his own private hell. I suppose misery, really does love company.


All I can say to the EoM cultists is this:
Let the True Messiah, show you the way, let him show you that you can leave all the emotions of conflict behind and exist in a True Unity with the rest of humanity. Burning New Eden will not help anyone, it is our duty as human beings to find a way out of the circle of conflict that is never ending, against the dystopian regimes that would have you believe there is no alternative.

Your apathy to this duty is appalling, as one has already found a solution and it is hubris to stand against this, and blasphemous to not acknowledge it. I can only hope that once he finds you, the Master can show you the error of your ways, and you will serve society rather than try and destroy it.


I would really hate to rain on your parade Valentina, but there is a very big problem with your idea.

Nation is a result of trespass. Nation is criminal. Nation is punishment. Nation is part of Gods wrath.

Ocilan Ardishapur, Paragyn Koreithis, and Aramon Khalid made it very clear. There will be no unity, no peace, no harmony for any human in the Garden. There are only two choices. Leave, or die.
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#32 - 2012-02-23 03:21:29 UTC
I sympathize with your loss.

Sadly, I sympathize with nothing else about you.

Hope you find whatever you're looking for.

Ava

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Erik Kaassan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-02-23 05:56:59 UTC
Your emotions are justified Mr. Thagriin but I'm afraid that there are too many people reliant on the status quo for anything to change. The Nation and other criminal elements are without a doubt parasites but at the same time they are a main part of my paycheck and destroying them is my perverse pleasure. I will not sacrifice it for one mans vendetta against society and pirate alike.

Perhaps in another life, in another time, but not this one. I will not allow you to stop this and neither will anybody else.
Dilaro thagriin
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-02-27 14:57:12 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
I sympathize with your loss.

Sadly, I sympathize with nothing else about you.

Hope you find whatever you're looking for.

Ava


You have my thanks for these words Ava.
However, do not waste your pity on me.
Pity those who do not yet have peace.

When the cluster is silent once more, all will have peace.

-Dilaro
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#35 - 2012-02-27 23:28:50 UTC
Dilaro thagriin wrote:
Ava Starfire wrote:
I sympathize with your loss.

Sadly, I sympathize with nothing else about you.

Hope you find whatever you're looking for.

Ava


You have my thanks for these words Ava.
However, do not waste your pity on me.
Pity those who do not yet have peace.

When the cluster is silent once more, all will have peace.

-Dilaro


More like when you stop ranting and do something useful with your immortality.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#36 - 2012-02-28 06:11:55 UTC
All these words.


And at best, someone who plagues us with threats that we know change nothing, and that alone is sad to watch.

At worst, another stark raving lunatic camping a gate and killing everything that moves, but they are easy to avoid.


And so life goes on.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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