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nate555
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-09-20 07:31:00 UTC
so I have found in order for me to pew pew better, i am going to have to get into a different race. i like the galente idea with using drones. as the worm is attracting me too it. I'm just not sure what now. mimatar look nice too.
Menenda Tararena
Project XIII
#2 - 2011-09-20 07:53:32 UTC
Go minnie. Will make it easier on you since you allready have shields and missiles
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#3 - 2011-09-20 09:17:34 UTC
As usual, new poster comes to the forums and says 'hi, I want a new ship lol, which one should I take?'

What role are you planning on using your new cross training race for?
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Ruban Spangler
TEMPLAR.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2011-09-20 11:29:17 UTC
Start out cross-training for T2 frigates. You can train t2 weapons, ships and tank in very little time. You can then pick and choose the best of each t2 frigate class.

I still fly predominantly caldari but recently trained up for the Dramiel. Took very little time to pick up t2 autocannons and the racial frigates to lvl 5.
Fabulous Virgil
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-09-20 12:41:51 UTC
pick whatever, tanking skills take no time to train and you should have all of them anyway, with missiles you won't effectively crosstrain to anything, if you just want to fly pirate ships then that's a different story
nate555
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-09-20 17:51:51 UTC
well basically I want to be in something that can do some damage. unlike hybrids or the time frame of missiles. mimitar does look like the best choice being as i have good shield skills. turrets excite me unlike missiles.
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#7 - 2011-09-20 17:58:46 UTC
nate555 wrote:
well basically I want to be in something that can do some damage. unlike hybrids or the time frame of missiles. mimitar does look like the best choice being as i have good shield skills. turrets excite me unlike missiles.


Where are you firing your missiles from? I never have any trouble inside of point range.

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nate555
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-09-20 18:04:21 UTC
turrets just fire faster then missiles, thats all im saying
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#9 - 2011-09-20 18:33:28 UTC
nate555 wrote:
turrets just fire faster then missiles, thats all im saying


Rocket Launcher 2: cycle time of 4s
280mm Howitzer Artillery 2: cycle time of 10.71s

Don't make blanket statements, they're usually wrong in some way.

Missiles and other weapons can be used fine in PvP, there's a bit of time before the missiles hit, but they still work perfectly well in small gangs and such.

To the OP, if you're going to crosstrain, Minmatar would probably be the easiest (since there's some overlap with shields and missiles), but there's no reason not to get frigs/cruisers in all races, then just try them out and see what you like.
Korg Leaf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-09-20 18:41:48 UTC
mxzf wrote:
nate555 wrote:
turrets just fire faster then missiles, thats all im saying


Rocket Launcher 2: cycle time of 4s
280mm Howitzer Artillery 2: cycle time of 10.71s

Don't make blanket statements, they're usually wrong in some way.

Missiles and other weapons can be used fine in PvP, there's a bit of time before the missiles hit, but they still work perfectly well in small gangs and such.

To the OP, if you're going to crosstrain, Minmatar would probably be the easiest (since there's some overlap with shields and missiles), but there's no reason not to get frigs/cruisers in all races, then just try them out and see what you like.


Not that I agree with Nate555 but comparing the short range missiles with the long range artys for rof is hardly fair comparison
nate555
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-09-20 19:10:08 UTC
i don't use rockets. nerver to the time to train them
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-09-20 19:20:37 UTC
nate555 wrote:
so I have found in order for me to pew pew better, i am going to have to get into a different race. i like the galente idea with using drones. as the worm is attracting me too it. I'm just not sure what now. mimatar look nice too.


Caldari is always a good option.

The best PVPers in game use Caldari...

Minmatar is just trending atm.

I'm back!
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#13 - 2011-09-20 19:54:48 UTC
nate555 wrote:
i don't use rockets. nerver to the time to train them


Your missing out rockets on the right ship i.e. Hookbill, Hawk or Vengeance are bloody marvellous

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Hoshi
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#14 - 2011-09-20 20:52:59 UTC
mxzf wrote:
nate555 wrote:
turrets just fire faster then missiles, thats all im saying


Rocket Launcher 2: cycle time of 4s
280mm Howitzer Artillery 2: cycle time of 10.71s

Rockets should be compared to Autocannons, not artillery. But it's not like it's big difference there either.
Rocket Launcher II: 4s
200mm AutoCannon II: 3.75s
Medium Pulse Laser II: 3.5s
Light Neutron Blaster II 3.5s

It doesn't matter what class you select, missiles are going to have the lowest rof in that class. I some cases the difference is small like for small short range or medium short range but in other cases it's really large like for example large short range with torpedos having double rof time compared to the second slowest.

One more thing to take into account is that rof bonuses for missiles is an exception, not the rule. Where for turrets it's much more common.

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Cleo Pandora
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-09-20 23:36:34 UTC
nate555 wrote:
well basically I want to be in something that can do some damage. unlike hybrids or the time frame of missiles. mimitar does look like the best choice being as i have good shield skills. turrets excite me unlike missiles.


Sounds like a Hurricane would suit you perfectly. They have good DPS good in gangs and fleets and overall a Fun ship!
Not to hard to train towards aswell, ill think about which ship interests you first then get stuck in and train towards it, tempest fleet issue is a awesome ship :D Like most have already said it wont be to hard on your skill ether, you already have shields and missles help too.
Cleo Pandora
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-09-20 23:38:27 UTC
Just need to train Guns, and spaceship command and btw mimi have 3rd best drones capabilities also. what you waiting for plan that training quere :)
nate555
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-09-21 06:23:28 UTC
i might train rockets. could be interesting to use a hawk for once, or a hookbill. but i noteced the gila has a huge drone bay. it looks very nice, but money wise, eeehhmmm.
whaynethepain
#18 - 2011-09-21 09:09:08 UTC
Drake, Hurricane.

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.
Joss56
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-09-21 13:08:24 UTC
whaynethepain wrote:
Drake, Hurricane.



And every one and their cat will want you in their fleet Lol