Missions & Complexes

ive done my fair share of PvP in null sec. I can solo drone hordes in a battleship, Ive done 10/10 complexes (not alone of course)...but after finally returning to hi-sec after years...

I cant do fr*#$&*# level 4 missions!

I fly amarr...and only amarr. maybe thats the problem. it seems every gate in every mission is crawling with neuting batteries and neuting rats and no matter how sweet my tank is...I either dominate everything, or I lose a very pretty penny...very slowly...while sobbing into my beer...

So what does it take??
Ive used a Legion, I know the legion isnt the best in the world (but its not bad). that didnt work
I tried a partially faction fit abaddon...that really didnt work.

marauder?
navy apocalypse?
HAM Legion? (has like the DPS of a flashlight...)
faction fit Legion worth more than god?

I dont mind spending good money on a ship, ive got a bunch of faction mods sitting around. but i DO mind losing it. I know you shouldnt fly a ship you cant afford to lose, and yes I COULD afford to lose a 2b ISK ship, but I feel confident that most people dont lose their high ISK ratting ship each week.

ideas? strategies? what is the "right" ship (or ship fit)?

im getting really aggrivated knowing a computer beat me...

Part of the problem could be the faction of missions you are taking. Try a different area. For example if you are in an area that is primarily Sansha missions, move to Rens area for Angel missions. Different factions have different ewar tactics and you may need to find one that doesnt use as many neuts.

I cant fly gallente or caldari...but thats actually not that long to train (15 days to get up to BS 4 in both). I have good-ish shield skills and pretty good drone skills (fly carriers so i have to).

Much better at armor and lazors tho, other ideas?

I am not familiar with Amarr but have been told Amarr have a great missioning ship...some say the best. I can't remember what it is though.

Also, I thought Amarr can mission well but not against any enemy...they have to be selective and that missioning in Amarr space is generally the best for them.

They've more DPS than HPL Legions.



Nothing wrong with putting faction mods on a T3.


Also there's very few neuting scenarios in L4's, most of them are in epic arc missions. You'll come against Blood Raiders that neut you but the real answer there is fit a cap booster.

There's only *ONE* "foolproof" lvl 4 mission ship, period.

Dominix.

If you put 2 seconds worth of thought into your loadout before you undock for a mission, there's not a lvl 4 handed out by gallente agents that can't be done almost entirely afk by a domi.

And that includes Smash the Supplier, where you get what must be the entire damned amarr navy.

Never takes me more than 10 minutes start to finish, and it is probably my FAVORITE afk mission.

Hell, even WC is a damned snoozefest with the correct T2 modules.

Warp in, aggro the room with a civie laser, release the drones and have a nap. Warp to next room, rinse and repeat.

As for Smash the Supplier, well, read the cliff's notes and you, too, can profit handsomely without ever taking a single hit of damage.

I'm actually amazed they haven't nerfed the beast, honestly.

It's too overpowered as a PvE vessel.

Sure, there are ships that run them faster, but none as cheap or as AFK.

Grin

Very true. Dominix with the right hardeners and a couple of reps is extremely hard to beat for the price.

I wouldn't take my Domi to the epic arcs. I'd use the rattle due to it being able to keep on kickin without any cap at all.

Hehe I feel your pain Good luck on the missioning!

I've yet to come across a L4 or epic arc mission that I couldn't do in a t2 raven with cap booster [yes, i've completed all of them]. It's all about knowing what to do, what are the triggers, where can you kite, and what hardeners to fit. With the enormous number of mission guides there's really no time when you have no idea (although some epic arc missions have scant explanations). Same deal with the maelstrom. I don't trust the domi or apoc/baddon on epic arcs, but they're also fine for L4s in general.

PS: Paladin is great, rattlesnake is garbage.