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One EVE, One Vote, One Chairman: Why You Should Vote For The Mittani For CSM

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Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
#321 - 2012-02-22 02:36:54 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Reilly Duvolle wrote:

No, I am saying that when YOU have fun is is EXCLUSIVELY on other peoples expense. Most other groups like to mix it up a bit.

But this isnt a big issue for me. what you do in game I am fine with, really.

What I am NOT fine with, is that you bring the in-game metagaming shenanigans to an out of game representative body that is supposed to work for the good of the game as a whole.

My dear friend, while we reached the end of where public knowledge can take us, I do hope you realize that at every turn your information was wrong: this ought to make you consider that perhaps you may wish to sit down and re-evaluate what you "know" about 0.0 and EVE. You may even discover that 0.0 is much more interesting than you had thought!


All evidence presented in this thread - regardless of actual numbers involved - paint a picture of massive CFC tech income inferiority. So unless you want to actually present numbers suggesting otherwise, I'd call this a fact.

You want to present the Mittani as "unbiased" wanting to nerf tech even if you have massive income from it. I say he does it for his own damn good, before the imbalance in income can translate to even greater inbalance in in-game strategic assets. This is my opinion yes, but based on the above fact and the Goon history of metagaming evrything.

You admit that you dont regard the CSM as a neutral body, that "everybody" just represents their own interest, while the CSM PDF explicitlay states that metagames should remain in-game, not in the CSM.

So I relize, that on every important turn in this thread I have been right.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#322 - 2012-02-22 02:42:16 UTC
post with your outbreakdot main thanks

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#323 - 2012-02-22 02:46:32 UTC
Reilly Duvolle wrote:

All evidence presented in this thread - regardless of actual numbers involved - paint a picture of massive CFC tech income inferiority. So unless you want to actually present numbers suggesting otherwise, I'd call this a fact.

My dear friend, we already torpedoed this foolish argument because we discovered you were asserting that all tech moons not known to be held - through public information - by the CFC were actually held by "team tech" to use a moronic term for a bloc that does not exist. Your foolishness in this area was made glaringly clear to even the most intelligence-poor 0.0 newbie when you asserted that Geminate - a region held by Drone Region Russians - mattered to this discussion. We have, in every analysis of claimed facts underlying your arguments, discovered you did not understand the facts at all.

More importantly, you have demonstrated a crippling lack of awarness of 0.0 power blocs, assuming that what matters is that the CFC controls 51% of all tech in the game - a clearly nonsensical argument that nobody in 0.0, even our intelligence-poor friend from the previous paragraph, believes. Instead we have inescapable evidence that Goonswarm and the CFC are one of a tiny handful of alliances that have hilariously huge technetium income, vastly outpacing the rest of EVE as we gluttonously bathe in isk and send cheap drakefleets to fight our enemies.

Such arguments you have made have, ultimately, boiled down to a sad man sitting in empire, raging at a deamon in the distance he knows little about and proving his evil through such basic arithmetic as 2+2 = cheese. I regret that your EVE career has left you so dispondent, alone, and angry: and The Mittani is still offering you the chance to leave that behind and become part of a winning coalition.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#324 - 2012-02-22 02:48:41 UTC
Don't become another cipher jones badposter, alone with his pro wrestling outfit practicing his movez on the inflatable doll he bought to alleviate the loneliness just a little bit: you are not too far down the path of badposting and there is still hope for you.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
#325 - 2012-02-22 02:51:55 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
more bullshit.


As stated, all evidence presented in this thread suggest you are suffering form a massive tech income inferiority, compared to parties not blue to you.

Feel free to post any evidence suggesting otherwise.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#326 - 2012-02-22 02:54:11 UTC
alas, even I cannot save someone from the road of badposting without their assistance

farwell, poor reilly, may your future endeavors be more successful than your attempts to understand technetium or the fine art of goodposting~~~

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
#327 - 2012-02-22 02:55:48 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
alas, even I cannot save someone from the road of badposting without their assistance

farwell, poor reilly, may your future endeavors be more successful than your attempts to understand technetium or the fine art of goodposting~~~


Bye little weasel
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#328 - 2012-02-22 03:12:25 UTC
Reilly Duvolle wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
more bullshit.


As stated, all evidence presented in this thread suggest you are suffering form a massive tech income inferiority, compared to parties not blue to you.

Feel free to post any evidence suggesting otherwise.


compare our income with that of literally everyone else that doesn't hold a ton of technetium

then let's talk about "tech income inferiority"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#329 - 2012-02-22 03:26:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Weaselior wrote:
alas, even I cannot save someone from the road of badposting without their assistance

farwell, poor reilly, may your future endeavors be more successful than your attempts to understand technetium or the fine art of goodposting~~~

Badposting past looks at the thread and sighs.

Badposting present writes this post.

EVE-O forums continue merrily on its way to badposting future.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Pirokobo
Alternative Royal Dynamics
RAZOR Alliance
#330 - 2012-02-22 03:41:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Pirokobo
VOTE THE MITTANI OR: HOW THE KITSUNE BECAME USEFUL AND LEARNED TO JAM TITANS

Watch it here.
Zhade Lezte
#331 - 2012-02-22 03:54:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhade Lezte
But alas, that non-technetium holding alliances would benefit from the change doesn't matter as us evil goonies are only doing this for our benefit to fight this massive, unified anti-CFC powerblock that consists of every other 0.0 alliance in eve, since the terrible, disgusting clusterfuck coalition has no diplomats or any political aptitude whatsoever.

Nevermind any other considerations such as the fact that regardless of our alleged enemies' superior tech income, we may still greatly enjoy having possession of our 1 trillion ISK a month income of tech moons due to the incredible ship reimbursement programs we gain that greatly (and in the case of official fleet doctrines, fully) subsidize our pvp ship losses, simply because it is more fun to be able to not have to grind out ISK tediously for pvp ships. No, we cannot enjoy these benefits as long as this verified powerbloc of team tech has 2 TRILLION (a made-up number) ISK/month of income. We may as well be in rifters, such is the extent of our poverty with our mere 1 trillion/mo ISK income of pvp subsidies.

Sadly from another thread concerning titan tracking it seems that when the mind of such an independent-minded person as Reilly Duvolle is made up, by jove it is MADE UP. Even if their original reasoning hinges on such unreliable sources as evenews24 any attempts at educating them further are seen merely as ~goon spin~, such is the strength of their independence.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#332 - 2012-02-22 04:20:51 UTC
Pirokobo wrote:
VOTE THE MITTANI OR: HOW THE KITSUNE BECAME USEFUL AND LEARNED TO JAM TITANS

Watch it here.


i just realized you're mrchi

it all makes sense now

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#333 - 2012-02-22 04:28:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Zhade Lezte wrote:
But alas, that non-technetium holding alliances would benefit from the change doesn't matter as us evil goonies are only doing this for our benefit to fight this massive, unified anti-CFC powerblock that consists of every other 0.0 alliance in eve, since the terrible, disgusting clusterfuck coalition has no diplomats or any political aptitude whatsoever.

Seeing someone new would actually be nice, but it seems they would have to join a tech moon bloc to get anywhere, which I guess means us (which you shouldn't as we're smaller, RITE) or else join up with BoB4.0 (or 5.0 if you don't get around to it within a few months). Pity.
Zhade Lezte wrote:
we may still greatly enjoy having possession of our 1 trillion ISK a month income of tech moons due to the incredible ship reimbursement programs we gain that greatly (and in the case of official fleet doctrines, fully) subsidize our pvp ship losses, simply because it is more fun to be able to not have to grind out ISK tediously for pvp ships. No, we cannot enjoy these benefits as long as this verified powerbloc of team tech has 2 TRILLION (a made-up number) ISK/month of income. We may as well be in rifters, such is the extent of our poverty with our mere 1 trillion/mo ISK income of pvp subsidies.

It's been decisively proven on the forums that goons don't actually over reimburse so you make money when you get blown up (after insurance of course).

But seriously, some peopls have lost tons of ships on ops, it's fun. Try getting in a scorpion and being primaried!
Zhade Lezte wrote:
Sadly from another thread concerning titan tracking it seems that when the mind of such an independent-minded person as Reilly Duvolle is made up, by jove it is MADE UP. Even if their original reasoning hinges on such unreliable sources as evenews24 any attempts at educating them further are seen merely as ~goon spin~, such is the strength of their independence.

It's always balanced until goons get hold of it. History shows this to be quite true.

Lets go TITAN BOWLING guis~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Nirnaeth Ornoediad
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#334 - 2012-02-22 04:28:32 UTC
Azriel Geist wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Azriel Geist wrote:
I will be voting for Hans Jagerblitzen.

The Mittani has had his run, it's time for him to step aside.

While altposting is a time-honored tradition on eve-o, it is considered good form to be less obvious about it Lyrrashae


I am not an alt, good sir. Just a newbie, and I was in Hans' corp for a spell while I figured out I'd rather lead more of a lone wolf space life.


Thus your emo pic, which shows us all the dark abyss of your soul.

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#335 - 2012-02-22 04:30:19 UTC
Nirnaeth Ornoediad wrote:
Thus your emo pic, which shows us all the dark abyss of your soul.

Scary, dark like the backgrounds of nullsec maps.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Nirnaeth Ornoediad
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#336 - 2012-02-22 04:34:22 UTC
Reilly Duvolle wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Reilly Duvolle wrote:

No, I am saying that when YOU have fun is is EXCLUSIVELY on other peoples expense. Most other groups like to mix it up a bit.

But this isnt a big issue for me. what you do in game I am fine with, really.

What I am NOT fine with, is that you bring the in-game metagaming shenanigans to an out of game representative body that is supposed to work for the good of the game as a whole.

My dear friend, while we reached the end of where public knowledge can take us, I do hope you realize that at every turn your information was wrong: this ought to make you consider that perhaps you may wish to sit down and re-evaluate what you "know" about 0.0 and EVE. You may even discover that 0.0 is much more interesting than you had thought!


All evidence presented in this thread - regardless of actual numbers involved - paint a picture of massive CFC tech income inferiority. So unless you want to actually present numbers suggesting otherwise, I'd call this a fact.

You want to present the Mittani as "unbiased" wanting to nerf tech even if you have massive income from it. I say he does it for his own damn good, before the imbalance in income can translate to even greater inbalance in in-game strategic assets. This is my opinion yes, but based on the above fact and the Goon history of metagaming evrything.

You admit that you dont regard the CSM as a neutral body, that "everybody" just represents their own interest, while the CSM PDF explicitlay states that metagames should remain in-game, not in the CSM.

So I relize, that on every important turn in this thread I have been right.


I think The Mittani realizes that in order for EVE to be fun, Goonswarm needs targets. If Technetium continues to skew the game as badly as it currently does, it will in the long run result in unsubs, and unsubs hurt everyone. Sure, The Mittani prefers to bathe in the tears of 0.0 virgins, but in order to do so he needs a ready supply.

If EVE is Not Fun because of ****** game mechanics, no virgin tears, because no one will join or stay.
If EVE is Not Fun because other players make it challenging, guess what: people stay. Look at AAA. They get kicked back to Stain every few months or so, and have proven one of the more resilient groups of players in this game.

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#337 - 2012-02-22 05:18:23 UTC
no guys we clearly advocate for a tech nerf because it's the Mutually Assured Destruction option (and it really isn't heh)

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#338 - 2012-02-22 05:58:55 UTC
Nirnaeth Ornoediad wrote:
Sure, The Mittani prefers to bathe in the tears of 0.0 virgins, but in order to do so he needs a ready supply.

He has the best tastes. Mittani for CSM chair.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Serene Repose
#339 - 2012-02-22 06:00:42 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
..a man....

I'm sorry, I got this far in your geometrically expanded verbosity and started laughing so hard the tears in my eyes prevented me from reading on...as well as a highly refined BS detector. But...about this quote. I've seen a picture of Mitt and that word hardly describes him. In fact, I'd try not to use that term to describe poor Mitt whilst in public. You may get a net dropped over you.

Mitt a man. Too funny.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#340 - 2012-02-22 06:41:28 UTC
My favorite part about this thread is all the angry badposts coming from the Fuckgoons club being answered with Weaselior's calm, patient goodposting. Black is white, up is down, night is day and God must truly be dead.