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One EVE, One Vote, One Chairman: Why You Should Vote For The Mittani For CSM

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Jita Alt666
#221 - 2012-02-21 19:46:47 UTC
Sasori michi wrote:
Goons trying to ***** yet another game . Any remember DarkFall ?.
Goons had their way with that too and DF is dead.
Im just gona get the popcorn and watch them do the same to EVE .Roll

and OP is a...Old British slang word for Cigarette.
He must really love his Bukkake.


You are new around here aren't you?
Jita Alt666
#222 - 2012-02-21 19:52:28 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Quote:
That doesn't mean neutral. It simply means that they can't try to use their CSM position to gain tactical advantage.


That's the very ******* definition of neutral.


1. not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others: a neutral nation during World War II.

2. not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy: The arbitrator was absolutely neutral.
Jita Alt666
#223 - 2012-02-21 19:56:33 UTC
Reilly Duvolle wrote:
Just for the fun of it, I took the liberty of collecting selected Andski quotes from this thread alone. Its quite a collection.

Andski wrote:
moron

some bullshit tinfoil theory

we get it, the mean goonies touched you in a bad place and you're bitter about it

you look dumb

you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about

you are a bleating moron

Again, you're only bleating. baaaaaaa, baaaaaaa

baaaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaa

let me try to reduce that to a syllable count suitable for your reading level

again, baaaaaa, baaaaaa

owning bleating pubbies erryday

let me explain why you're an idiot...

pubbies are hilarious


Yeah... Its quite the sewer. You must be the pride of Goonswarm Andski.

But I am curious though. Does you mum know you play internet tough guy?


Please keep demonstrating through deflection of topic that your arguments have been completely destructed. The fact that an individual who posts with such poor grammar, sentence structure and with such disdain for everything you hold dear in life makes it even more emphatic.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#224 - 2012-02-21 20:44:42 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Please keep demonstrating through deflection of topic that your arguments have been completely destructed. The fact that an individual who posts with such poor grammar, sentence structure and with such disdain for everything you hold dear in life makes it even more emphatic.


poorly my sentences are enstructured indeed

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
#225 - 2012-02-21 21:12:01 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
[Please keep demonstrating through deflection of topic that your arguments have been completely destructed. The fact that an individual who posts with such poor grammar, sentence structure and with such disdain for everything you hold dear in life makes it even more emphatic.


Fact: The CSM is supposed to be a neutral body. Your sorry ass attempts to cloud this fact is at best misinformed, at worst blantant propaganda.

Fact: The Goons have consistenly pushed for changes that benefits them in game during their term in CSM 6, while largely ignoring issues that dont affect them during the same term. there are exceptions, but pretty few and more importantly, insignificant.

Add the Goons history in EVE, their meta gaming traddition the last 6 years, and I think that my opinion is not entirely without merit. You can try to convice people that my arguments have been totally destructed, but I think you will find quite a lot of people with a diffrent opinion.
Tukucommin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#226 - 2012-02-21 21:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tukucommin
Forum ate my post...nothing to see here move along
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#227 - 2012-02-21 21:43:14 UTC
That a Goon can't be trusted was already clear from day one. All those who did just got screwed over and will get screwed over in the future.
Anyone thinking anything else is just kidding himself.

Is it or isn't it true that a true Goon has one goal and one goal only. To ruin none goons game.

The metagaming crap isn't introduced in EVE by Goons however. There were large entities in EVE before Goons which already exalted at it.

What Goons however did was take the whole metagaming to a new level.

Also the claims of Goons having been all over the place is true. However not always voluntary but more because they got kicked from several places.
The north where they are now was actually offered to them, they didn't have to conquer it. TCF was falling apart and in the south the Goons couldn't hold their own.\
Since Goons and the NC were blue to eachother the NC saw Goons as the only possible replacement for TCF.

The NC made a big mistake there.

However I feel pretty fine with it, because all big alliances fall over time. Specially the ones which like to profile themselves as much as Goons.
Where we had BoB in the passt we now have Goons and it won't take that long before people huddle up against the Goons. Then all of a sudden their extensive blue list will start to crumble as the rats start to desert the sinking ship.

Mittens will most likely leave the game then because he won't be as E-important as he needs to be.
Weasel will run after him as fast as he can because let's face it, every big character needs a loyal side kick.

That Mittens has no good intentions in regards to EVE in general isn't just a statement, it's a fact. Only thing people could wonder about is how he is planning to mess up the game.
Clyde ElectraGlide
Emara Entertainment Inc.
#228 - 2012-02-21 21:55:21 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Is it or isn't it true that a true Goon has one goal and one goal only. To ruin none goons game.


CSM6 and Mitten's emphasis on better communication between the CSM and CCP, getting the focus back on to FiS, and advising over the little details that made Crucible great is clearly 'ruining the game' right?

In Need of a New Signature

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
#229 - 2012-02-21 22:16:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Reilly Duvolle
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:

CSM6 and Mitten's emphasis on better communication between the CSM and CCP, getting the focus back on to FiS, and advising over the little details that made Crucible great is clearly 'ruining the game' right?


Yes. The communication issue that started out CSM6 is a point were the Mittani and the CSM deserves credit.

However, for the getting focus back on FiS part, I feel The Mittani take a bit much credit from the people (i.e. you and I) that actually prompted that change. The CSM didnt bring it about, the playerbase did.

And to be very honest, once the long term planning for Christmas vent down the drain, focusing on the low hanging fruit was CCPs ONLY viable course of action for Crucible. What the Mittani did press for however, was the supercap nerf.

All in all, I think the Mittani is excessivly good at taking credit for other peoples work and blind circumstance.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#230 - 2012-02-21 22:23:24 UTC
I am many things in EVE but mining is my base. It is where I started and I go back to it fairly often. I have mined in highsec, lowsec, nullsec, and wormhole space. I've mined most types of ores, ices, and gas. And I for one can say that I do trust Goonswarm and The Mittani to take care of my mining needs. One of the worst things about mining is how boring it is, and nobody has ever made it more fun than Goonswarm. My favorite times to mine are during hulkageddon or during an interdiction--it gives me something to do other than just mining.

I generally Jet-can mine, and I've had lots of people steal my ore just to provoke me. But once I saw someone take it in a defenseless industrial, clearly wanting to take it back home and sell it all. With the realization that that can happen, I started equipping my barges with warp scramblers, and was able to destroy an iteron that stole my ore once. It's this kind of stuff that makes mining fun, and if you disagree then I can only assert that you are running bots and fear that the changes that real players consider positive are going to be negative to your illegal mining cartel.

I also like to PVP, and I would suicide gank mining barges all the time if it was easier and I could get my security status up faster. I prefer to gank bots, and will call out for real miners to alert me to their presence so I don't gank them mistakenly, but that's just my personal preference. There is a certain rush a person gets from performing a successful suicide gank, and the victim can get a rush too, knowing their ship is about to die. Both pilots' heart rates skyrocket, they get an adrenaline rush, and their hands will be shaking. And then there's a certain beauty to seeing your ship explode, hearing that satisfying *BOOM!* and secretly enjoying it even though you just lost your beloved ship. That's what EVE is all about. It's about suspense, it's about never knowing what's going to happen. It's about screaming in outrage and frustration when you lose something expensive, or screaming and crying out of joy when you have a major success. No other game gives that. If you just want to grind all day, play just about any other MMO.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#231 - 2012-02-21 22:26:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Weaselior wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nothing in the world is more pathetic than a man giving another man a verbal blowjob.


Yeah, but Cipher's also right in this case, "bitter and alone" though he may be: Even a broken clock is right twice a day

Weaselior wrote:
Ask yourselves, when you're choosing who to vote for: who do you wish to align yourself with? [...]


Exactly so. See my sig for my answer to that question.

Next!

Ni.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#232 - 2012-02-21 22:29:23 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
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Exactly so. See my sig for my answer to that question.

Next!

There are few things more pathetic than a passive-aggressive forums sig. Ask yourselves: who do you want to vote for, someone whose supporters openly campaign for him and explain why he is the best candidate, or someone where his supporters must resort to passive-aggressive badposting in their sig, and who align themselves with fans of pro wrestling like Cipher Jones?

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#233 - 2012-02-21 22:32:44 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Azriel Geist wrote:
I will be voting for Hans Jagerblitzen.

The Mittani has had his run, it's time for him to step aside.

While altposting is a time-honored tradition on eve-o, it is considered good form to be less obvious about it Lyrrashae


Nope, that's no alt of mine.

Sorry, fail.

If I'm going to troll/flame, then I at least have the strength of conviction to do so on my main.

Now then: Where is Teh Mittienz (TM), already? I'm sure that, if nothing else, he is perfectly capable of speaking for himself, and doesn't need pathetically eager fluffers like you to do it for him.

(My God, where is your self-respect, man?)

Ni.

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#234 - 2012-02-21 22:37:43 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Azriel Geist wrote:
I will be voting for Hans Jagerblitzen.

The Mittani has had his run, it's time for him to step aside.

While altposting is a time-honored tradition on eve-o, it is considered good form to be less obvious about it Lyrrashae


Nope, that's no alt of mine.

Sorry, fail.

If I'm going to troll/flame, then I at least have the strength of conviction to do so on my main.

Now then: Where is Teh Mittienz (TM), already? I'm sure that, if nothing else, he is perfectly capable of speaking for himself, and doesn't need pathetically eager fluffers like you to do it for him.

(My God, where is your self-respect, man?)


He often does speak for himself, and if you would look up his posts in the forums, you would see this. But he's only one person. You can't realistically expect him to come to every misguided post and set them straight with some carefully researched words of wisdom relevant to the specific topic being discussed.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#235 - 2012-02-21 22:42:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Grossvogel
Weaselior wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
[
Exactly so. See my sig for my answer to that question.

Next!

There are few things more pathetic than a passive-aggressive forums sig. Ask yourselves: who do you want to vote for, someone whose supporters openly campaign for him and explain why he is the best candidate, or someone where his supporters must resort to passive-aggressive badposting in their sig, and who align themselves with fans of pro wrestling like Cipher Jones?



(Please watch your language — ISD Grossvogel)

And yes, I'm openly campaigning for my chosen candidates. I'll even do so now:

A) Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM...Chairman.
B) Re-elect TwoStep!

(Why these would both be good things for EVE doesn't need explaining to anyone non-bloc who has enough working brain-cells to form a coherent critical thought, though I realise that that precludes most Goons.)

Next!

Ni.

spookydonut
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#236 - 2012-02-21 22:53:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Grossvogel
Lyrrashae wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
[
Exactly so. See my sig for my answer to that question.

Next!

There are few things more pathetic than a passive-aggressive forums sig. Ask yourselves: who do you want to vote for, someone whose supporters openly campaign for him and explain why he is the best candidate, or someone where his supporters must resort to passive-aggressive badposting in their sig, and who align themselves with fans of pro wrestling like Cipher Jones?



(Please watch your language — ISD Grossvogel)

And yes, I'm openly campaigning for my chosen candidates. I'll even do so now:

A) Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM...Chairman.
B) Re-elect TwoStep!

(Why these would both be good things for EVE doesn't need explaining to anyone non-bloc who has enough working brain-cells to form a coherent critical thought, though I realise that that precludes most Goons.)

Next!


u mad?
JitaJolie
Paradox Technologies
#237 - 2012-02-21 22:53:25 UTC
you want me to vote for Mittani?

tell you what... for 1billion isk, I will vote for your mittani...

The amount must be paid up front, not after the vote. The sooner you make the payment, the better. You will pay the amount to me via "Transfer Isk" from whatever wallet you wish. make sure you place "payment for your vote for the Mittani" in the comment block.

Once the Isk has been transferred, I will respond by sending you 1 isk back in return. stating that your payment was received and I will make the according vote as requested during the Election Period.

During the Election Period, you will be reassured of my vote for the Mittani, by having that warm and fuzzy feeling that you have donated to the "Free Mittens for all!" Super Pac and that your 1 Billion Isk was Non-Real Isk well spent.

On a more serious note...

Mittens has managed to engage the CSM into a position where CCP may have paid more attention to them. This does not mean that he needs to continue to head up the CSM for the next year. He has done a commendable job in keeping the CSM on task for whatever purpose they have been set to. I for one am impressed he was able to herd that small group of cats in one direction.

On the other hand. Mittens was the lead of the CSM during one of the most tumultuous times in Eve Online's history. He presided over a CSM that was unable to prevent the melt downs that happened after the "greed is good" and Incarna riots.

We should hold him to the fire just like Americans hold the current president to the fire for being an ineffectual leader despite only being 1 person in a bureaucracy of many.

if you vote for Mittens or not... just make sure you vote....
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#238 - 2012-02-21 22:54:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Grossvogel
Lyrrashae wrote:
(Please watch your language — ISD Grossvogel)


And yes, I'm openly campaigning for my chosen candidates. I'll even do so now:

A) Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM...Chairman.
B) Re-elect TwoStep!

(Why these would both be good things for EVE doesn't need explaining to anyone non-bloc who has enough working brain-cells to form a coherent critical thought, though I realise that that precludes most Goons.)

Next!

While I regret that a frank exchange of ideas has reduced you to this state, I do appreciate your honesty in laying bare the real differences between The Mittani and other competitors, such as your preferred candidate Hans. People who support The Mittani are well-educated goodposters who coherently and intelligently discuss the important issues and work with all parties in eve willing to cross the lines that divide us to work as one to make EVE better. And, while it would be unfair to tar Hans himself as having written such a post, we must keep in mind the character of poster he has attracted, who would post such vitrol and hate, while freely and openly stating that you are unable and unwilling to back up your preferred candidate with calm, coherent reasoning.

The CSM is a body that must work together with people of opposing viewpoints, and it is clear The Mittani has had a stellar track record in this regard. In contrast, we must note the tribalist nature of the opposition where candidates are supported not on their own merits, but merely as "the anti-goon". And, when necessary, the CSM must be willing to openly and coherently explain why ideas are flawed and unworkable. Goons, The Mittani, and The Mittani supporters are able to coherently do this without needing to resort to petty name-calling. Those opposing The Mittani, well, we need only look at the above post.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Courthouse
Perkone
Caldari State
#239 - 2012-02-21 22:55:02 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Grossvogel
Lyrrashae wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
[
Exactly so. See my sig for my answer to that question.

Next!

There are few things more pathetic than a passive-aggressive forums sig. Ask yourselves: who do you want to vote for, someone whose supporters openly campaign for him and explain why he is the best candidate, or someone where his supporters must resort to passive-aggressive badposting in their sig, and who align themselves with fans of pro wrestling like Cipher Jones?



(Please watch your language — ISD Grossvogel)


And yes, I'm openly campaigning for my chosen candidates. I'll even do so now:

A) Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM...Chairman.
B) Re-elect TwoStep!

(Why these would both be good things for EVE doesn't need explaining to anyone non-bloc who has enough working brain-cells to form a coherent critical thought, though I realise that that precludes most Goons.)

Next!


quoting this for posterity.

To be fair, Hans is a good candidate. Two step's been decent and could work well with the CSM going forward. I don't see how either are mutually exclusive against Mittens for the CSM.



Also, your sig is terribly passive-aggressive. You can take 5 to look up the meaning if you'd like.
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
#240 - 2012-02-21 23:00:59 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Goons, The Mittani, and The Mittani supporters are able to coherently do this without needing to resort to petty name-calling.


Andski wrote:
moron

you look dumb

you are a bleating moron

Again, you're only bleating. baaaaaaa, baaaaaaa

baaaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaa

again, baaaaaa, baaaaaa

let me explain why you're an idiot...

pubbies are hilarious



Funny. Here I thought that Andski was a Goon. Oh well