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Station Trading. Jita the be all and end all?

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Karizma Karpenter
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-11 08:20:13 UTC
Ive recently managed to save up enough isk to start playing the markets. Ive trained quite a few of the trade biased skills and ive has some reasonable sucess station trading in jita.
But im getting a bit tired of the 0.01isk battle. Ive been considering moving my operations maybe to hek or one of the other lesser hubs.
Is there enought turnover of commoditites in the lesser hubs to make a good profit and warrant investing huge sums of hard earned isk?
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#2 - 2012-02-11 10:40:18 UTC
If there wasn't they wouldn't be called hubs. Blink
malaire
#3 - 2012-02-11 11:03:14 UTC
Karizma Karpenter wrote:
Is there enought turnover of commoditites in the lesser hubs to make a good profit and warrant investing huge sums of hard earned isk?

It probably depends on what is enough for you, and several other things like what items you trade in.

When I started trading in smaller hub, I soon realized I could sell enough there but not buy. So I started buying more from Jita and selling all in smaller hub, updating Jita orders only once per day and so avoiding Jita 0.01-isking.

But there are so many variables that I'd suggest you just try it and see if it works for you.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#4 - 2012-02-11 14:05:45 UTC
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Niding
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#5 - 2012-02-16 09:10:00 UTC
0,01 isk wars are a way of market life no matter where you go Blink

Lets say you go to the middle of nowhere and manages to develop the local market.
I pretty much guarrentee some randoms will notice the activity and start competing with you.
papamike
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-16 11:13:58 UTC
Niding wrote:
0,01 isk wars are a way of market life no matter where you go Blink

Lets say you go to the middle of nowhere and manages to develop the local market.
I pretty much guarrentee some randoms will notice the activity and start competing with you.


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Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#7 - 2012-02-17 00:52:38 UTC
I work in a smaller hub, and I only update my orders once a day. If you're happy with slower income that doesn't involve the .01 ISK game every 5 minutes, than I would say move to a smaller hub. It's been working out pretty well for me, although I know if I was more aggressive with my sell orders I could make more. It's just not worth it to me to try and update all the time, etc.

Your call, just depends on how you want to play.
GF07M8
#8 - 2012-02-17 03:52:25 UTC  |  Edited by: GF07M8
Tidurious wrote:
I work in a smaller hub, and I only update my orders once a day. If you're happy with slower income that doesn't involve the .01 ISK game every 5 minutes, than I would say move to a smaller hub. It's been working out pretty well for me, although I know if I was more aggressive with my sell orders I could make more. It's just not worth it to me to try and update all the time, etc.

Your call, just depends on how you want to play.


Smaller hubs don't necessarily mean more casual competition, this is a generalization that is quite often misleading. There are some sleepy (yet highly profitable) areas i'm aware of that are monitored 23/7 by a few traders, more often than not a small corp or individual who has taken up residence there doing other things on top of trading. In order to find spots where you can safely expect orders not to be undercut daily you have to go by trial and error to find them. Place some regional buys, notice where the orders are filled, throw up a few system or station wide order in the hot spots and see how much attention they get. You should be able to tell within a week if that region is worth your [limited] time. Of course, you could attempt to muscle them out if you have the isk to throw around, but that's a hefty risk when you are in unfamiliar territory and you certainly won't be able to accomplish it on a tight schedule.

Now, that is not to suggest that things aren't much more manageable outside of Jita or some other busy hub, but you'll find quite often the out-of-hub traders are every bit as defensive of their market (if not more so) than their wholesaler counterparts in 4-4.
Pookoko
Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
#9 - 2012-02-20 04:08:21 UTC
Confirming that out-of-hub traders are defensive as well. There are places and items which move slower, but i get 0.01isked more than in hubs. There are items in a hub that i only update once a day but still gives decent turn over. By all means explore other areas, but do know that its not easier, it just requires different tactic. The above advice about using region wide or system wide orders to test water is a good one, you often acquire items cheaper using this tactic too. For selling outside of hubs you need to know the area and go through trial and error and some research.
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-02-20 20:47:11 UTC
if you're going to invest that much time in searching it makes more sense to look for places where the demand for things exceeds supply enough that you don't need to worry about .01 isk wars (because both you and the other guy's stuff will sell). This is hard.
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#11 - 2012-02-21 19:34:30 UTC
if you have under 100 mil, then go for rare items. You don't have 0.1 isk every minute + higher profit. The "problem"
is that when you get more isk, then you have to move on if you want to earn isk it a faster phase.

+ If you have over 100 mil, then 0.1 isk is part of the trade.

Most important: Do courier missions for the owner of the station while you trade. 2 reason for this. Some millions
per h, but the Main point is to lower the brokers fee..

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