EVE General Discussion

You cry and complain about wanting to grow the FW community and then when a corp decides to take the plunge you call them spies and ostracize them.

How in the bloody ******* hell does this make any goddamn sense at all?

Jesus Christ, is it any ******* wonder most of the Minmatar Militia do little more than whore FW missions? (The other militias probably do the same too, IDK)

TBH, it seems like 50% the militia are little more than pirates, 25% are all cliqued up worse than high school kids, 20% are just in FW for the missions and then the last 5% are probably the only real spies present (with false accusations flying at everyone who isn't in the cliqued up 25%).

If I knew it was this bad, I wouldn't have enlisted my corp, ****, I may still just pull up stakes and move us to 0.0 for ***** and giggles.

Bit hard to judge coming from an alt.

Post with your main.

You look like a spy to me.

Only a spy would compile these kinds of force distribution numbers

Who cried about wanting to grow the community .. we old timers certainly haven't.

The only 'crying' has been to make FW better/more worthwhile/less farmville .. doing that and numbers may grow, but it is a side-effect and not the purpose.

By the way, your numbers are kind of borked .. 90% of the militias are farmers, 50% of the remainder are active in warzones and we are a paranoid bunch (cliqued up) and the last 5% are spies, blob-monkeys (ie. never fleet unless its a romp) and weekend-warriors/casuals.

How may I ask does a reforming 'bear have an "appropriate" killboard?

What, do you mean evidence of being ganked? (check)

Or do you mean "long and extensive history of PVP"? Um, we joined the militia to learn PVP but we can't play on the Pee Vee Pee playground without a long and extensive history of Pee Vee Pee? o.0

Can't get into any decent fleets without evidence of being an active PVPer? So what am I supposed to go out and roam alone and get wtfpwned by the many hotpockets (or better yet, that ****-for-brains Adolf??) due to my lack of knowledge about PVP?

Let me spell it out for you. Unless you provide us your real main and corp name your accusations of FW being flawed is simply a baseless rant. Being accused of a spy is the most common accusation that if your not use to that by now then really go back to empire and minimize local whilst you run your incursions or missons. You need thick skin, good fittings and a decent K/D ratio to beat that spy rap.

However let me save you some time. Posting here complaining about FW will get you little sympathy regardless so don't bother telling us who you are. Nobody cares because either you can stomach FW or you can't. CCP can't control other players attitudes so the spy complaint is of little use to them.

But in future, your street cred is who you are and what you've done lately. Killboard, corp / gang achievements and using your smarts will earn you the right to come here and whine. Otherwise your just another guy with another post.

But I do like your idea of moving your corp to 0.0. That is the smartest thing you said so far. I guarantee if your corp is really into PVP you will enjoy yourself.

You want to be taken seriously? Id say your odds are 50/50 and only a 10% chance of that.

People aren't just going to take you seriously out of the box.

You brought your corp, take them out on some roams. When you float your six man gang past a friendly camp they will notice that you aren't just farming LP, and spies don't really lead groups around like that. When people start to see you guys running around they will recognize that you are for cereal.

The KB suggestion isn't a bad one. It isn't to show off your 'leet' pvp skills, it's to show that you are an active member of the fight. Granted, most fleets will prefer people with a nicer kill spread, but if you were a spy you wouldn't be losing that many ships either.

You need, above all, Face Time. That means you are going to have to take the initiative. You'll have to be the FC. Your corp will have to operate solo for a little. I can tell you, though, that once people start seeing you participating they will start working with you.

I almost fell off my chair reading this. OP gets 8.6/10 for :rage: authenticity.