Issues, Workarounds & Localization

I'd take a look for you to see if anything has changed mate but my ISP has so much packet loss I can't even load the market - can barely change skills. Been ongoing for ages now (and constant for 6 days) so I'm moving to another ISP.

Will take a look once moved.

Oh and anyone having problems playing Eve on Be or O2, its your ISP - they're clueless muppets (and inveterate liars too).

I've never encountered problems like these before the Crucible 1.2 patch aka the Overview Improvement patch.
Now my overview got "improved" to the point of 20-40 seconds jump lag every 2nd or 3rd jump or so.

The system loads just fine, I can read and type in local, I can see bookmarks for a new system when I right-click (although I can't use them yet), i can d-scan to see what's waiting for me at the gate, but the overview, the nebula and the grid now take those precious 10-20-30-40 seconds to load. And this brings tears and suffering and potentially more tears, with me being a roaming explorer..

And yes, my computer time gets out of sync after some time spent in Eve. Again, I haven't noticed this problem before Crucible 1.2.

Any new developments on this issue? I would love to hear from CCP Habakuk on the progress (or regress for that matter).

EDIT: manually re-syncing the clock while staying logged in doesn't seem to solve the problem. I've just started using the more frequent automatic syncing and it remains to be seen if it affects things in any positive way.

The most baffling thing here is that the overview/grid lag doesn't happen on every jump.. You'd think that it would if time sync was the root of the issue..

I never had a problem until the Crucible 1.2 patch, but now I too am lagging after jumping through gates. The lag time can be up to 2 minutes. It makes jumping even a few jumps very frustrating.

I also have started experiencing this problem after Crucible 1.2 (but not before).

started having this problem as well after last week's patch, it makes the game pretty much unplayable.

Here you go. Sent.

Archinquisitor, Molic Blackbird: Thank you for your bugreports! Your problems are indeed caused by clock drift problems - the drift is too high for our current re-sync system. We had a discussion about this and we will try to solve this with an additional re-sync, which is able to handle high drifts. The release date for this is not decided yet - we will update this thread as soon as it is decided.

You can check for how much your client is drifting in comparison to our server by running logserver.exe and searching the logs. Every 10 minutes following message will be logged, which states the current difference to the server:
*** Soft Clock Sync adjusting by

Btw: We could not find anything, which would explain this to be worse with Crucible 1.2 or which would explain it to be worse in fleets, except that the computer *might* be a bit slower, if it is running at full load (for example during fleet-fights). Please reply here and send bugreports, if you have any additional info.

We know that the problem got more noticeable with the first step of enabling Time Dilation, which was in the middle of December, but the main change was several months earlier. With Crucible 1.1 the behavior was improved - but apparently not enough for users with a high clock drift. Crucible 1.2 should have not changed the behavior in any way - as far as we can tell.

I posted earlier in this thread about identifying the clock drift on my system as being caused by a particular SSD.

Having replaced that I have had zero problems with clock-sync.

Now I know its tempting here to point the finger at CCP, and further investigastion may validate that, however we can all help ourselves by first checking whether the clock-drift is the product of our systems and merely exposed by Crucible. If so then fix the system and fix the problem.

People have repeatedly reported clock-drfit after Eve has been running a while. Have you actually checked whether your clock is drifting when Eve isn't loaded? If your system clock drift is significant enough then resyncing even every 15 minutes will not resolve the problem.


1. Fire up timesynctool and set it to update every 15 minutes.

2. Leave it running for a while whilst using the system for use other than Eve.

3. Check the logs.

4. If you're seeing drift of greater than +/- 50 ms every 15 minutes, excepting the first sync, then the problem may be capable of being remedied by you. My drift by way of referemce was nearly a minute every 15 min resync until resolved. Now its always below +/- 50 ms.


What you may have to do to remedy it I can't guarantee. My problem as stated I narrowed down to an SSD and replaced it. Others have suggested the BIOS battery. Experiment. Be patient. Be methodical. It may tale some time but frankly if you can find and fix the error yourself its going to be sooner than waiting for CCP to devise a solution.

Hmm, actually, I am now flying all by myself (not in fleet), and still get frequent post-jump-delays.