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EFT v2.35 - Citadel
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Danny Husk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#401 - 2012-02-14 04:32:20 UTC
Just FYI: the skill "Mechanic" was the victim of some fit of trivial renaming mania at CCP recently. It is now called "Mechanics." This doesn't appear to make any difference in EFT if you edit a character's skills manually or download from an API key, but EFT now fails to read the value for this skill in .chr files exported by EVEMon (since EVEMon uses the new name, and EFT seems to ignore the line for "Mechanics" as something it doesn't recognize).
Desmont McCallock
#402 - 2012-02-14 14:39:30 UTC
Danny Husk wrote:
Just FYI: the skill "Mechanic" was the victim of some fit of trivial renaming mania at CCP recently. It is now called "Mechanics." This doesn't appear to make any difference in EFT if you edit a character's skills manually or download from an API key, but EFT now fails to read the value for this skill in .chr files exported by EVEMon (since EVEMon uses the new name, and EFT seems to ignore the line for "Mechanics" as something it doesn't recognize).
And this is why we at EVEMon Dev Team decided, a long time ago, to rely on skill IDs rather than names.
My suggestion would be that Gripen changes the chr format to include the skill ID (the names could be maintained for readability) and parse that instead of the name.
We can easily adjust the exported format on our side but would appreciate if Gripen would let us now on his intentions, before we release the upcoming 1.6.0 version, which is scheduled for mid next month.
pmchem
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#403 - 2012-02-14 17:40:29 UTC
Gripen wrote:

pmchem wrote:
I used EFT 2.14.4 and pyfa 1.1.2 to look at align time of an All-ZERO skill, no implants Charon.

EFT gives 87s, Pyfa gives 83.2s.

The formula from the wiki at http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Aligning gives 83.17s ...

I used to use this formula also until my alt trained for freighter. Then I took a stopwatch, done the measurements and improved calculation accuracy.


I did this experiment myself today, using a jita alt in a Charon and iphone stopwatch. I have confirmed EFT's results -- the wiki and pyfa are indeed in error. Thanks!

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Imogen Shimaya
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#404 - 2012-02-15 06:23:45 UTC
Nice work m8, been using the program for a very long time now, im also a delphi coder, so it all impresses me to no end, how ever today i found a problem!! yes, nothing major :)

Inside EFT my dual light beam laser II reports fitting cost for power and cpu differently to in game if it would help i can go to extra effort to actually paste #'s, however i don't have it in front of me, Ive double checked everything is synced and implants etc and affecting skill levels are set correctly!

I thought i had found the perfect fit lol, sadly no..!! :(
Fillingkillboards
State War Academy
Caldari State
#405 - 2012-02-15 12:16:53 UTC
Imogen Shimaya wrote:
Nice work m8, been using the program for a very long time now, im also a delphi coder, so it all impresses me to no end, how ever today i found a problem!! yes, nothing major :)

Inside EFT my dual light beam laser II reports fitting cost for power and cpu differently to in game if it would help i can go to extra effort to actually paste #'s, however i don't have it in front of me, Ive double checked everything is synced and implants etc and affecting skill levels are set correctly!

I thought i had found the perfect fit lol, sadly no..!! :(



They match perfectly for me, must be a skill deviation or an implant or some ship secific bonus issue.
Deez Icho
Perkone
Caldari State
#406 - 2012-02-16 08:50:12 UTC
In eft naga wtih blasters have lower falloff than in game.
Lubomir Penev
Prey Drive
#407 - 2012-02-16 13:01:07 UTC
Deez Icho wrote:
In eft naga wtih blasters have lower falloff than in game.


You obviously checked you got the latest EFT taking in account NULL changes and that you have the same ZGC (slot 7) implant in EVE and in EFT, right?
Hesher Gabriel
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#408 - 2012-02-19 12:19:26 UTC
very very thank you so much dude
Oestre
Number One Lucky Golden Dragon Buffet
#409 - 2012-02-19 23:11:24 UTC
Thank you very much. I can't tell you how much I appreciate all that you do .
Veinnail
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#410 - 2012-02-20 00:07:28 UTC
always love
gallentorus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#411 - 2012-02-20 21:55:22 UTC
Hello,

It is me or on drugs crash booster he have only malus but no bonus effect on eft?

Thank you for your reponses
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#412 - 2012-02-20 23:28:20 UTC
Great program, However may I suggest you host it on a Different Site? I hate having to pay to get a fast download on a free program.

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
GKFC
Quis Leget Haec
#413 - 2012-02-21 23:27:07 UTC
I didn't have to pay...

Great app, thanks for the updates.
T0RT0ISE
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#414 - 2012-02-22 01:47:54 UTC
It's always hosted on eve-files as well as that other site. Read the OP before clicking links.
Johnny Fero
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#415 - 2012-02-22 05:12:35 UTC
Thanks for mentionnig the mirror download. I missed that and could not

download from the top one.
Neleva
xutus
#416 - 2012-02-22 07:06:28 UTC
Good day Gripen,
thank you for EFT!

I am using EFT since 2007 i think and about 99% of things that did not match between my ingame values and EFT values were errors on my side - easy to be sorted out.
I do really love that it has no Autoupdate and i had few problems migrating new Versions (just copy paste the content of the new archive to your old directory). Obviously my 07 fittings wont work anymore, but they would not work in EvE as well (Stealthbomber with cruises ^^). This way i can have multiple Versions running at same time, compare changes from patch to patch, really lovely.

Just as a generall idea, EFT is something that gives you an idea about how a fitting can be compared to another. I have never bothered for minimal differrence to the ingame values and i think comparing EFT to otehr outgame values is a bad idea, as EFT has proven itself to be more precice then the most none dev releases.

In the end you have to test your fitting on TQ or SISI anyways.

Again thank you. I was an EFT addict right from day one (sometimes more than i fell for EvE itself) and it gave me possibilties to try out setups that prevailed (when i set up my first nano cane right after the nano nerf, everyone was going ballistic, now look on the killboards of the past 3 years ^^ ).

Best Regards

Neleva
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#417 - 2012-02-22 09:08:46 UTC
I've used this for years, but one thing that has started to bother me recently is the EHP values.

EHP Values seem over-inflated recently compared to in-game values.

Can anyone shed light on this?

.
Spugg Galdon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#418 - 2012-02-24 11:08:02 UTC
Are you checking your EHP values whilst in space with all your tank on? The fitting window only tells you what your current EHP is with whatever hardeners/DC are active
Mona X
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#419 - 2012-02-24 12:22:00 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:
I've used this for years, but one thing that has started to bother me recently is the EHP values.


Only recently?

Revolution Rising wrote:

EHP Values seem over-inflated recently compared to in-game values.

Can anyone shed light on this?


Ingame uses always worst resistances to calculate ehp (aka worst case scenario), default in EFT assumes balanced incoming dps.

I need new signature.
Sanguine Belroth
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#420 - 2012-02-29 16:12:52 UTC
Why the hell does Gripen have only a few hundred likes, and a bunch of Forum warriors have thousands. Show the love people. This man rocks, without EFT there is no Eve for me.

Much love Gripen