Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Because you (As a self professed Tech Moon holder) have a somewhat biased outlook toward this topic...

I think it tells me more that it could be a viable option than the likely hood it isn't possible or viable.

But hey no foul mate...

I can see why anyone holding such a gold mine would like to talk down any idea that would close your liquid gold faucet.

I maintain the belief that if the only place to get it was in low sec vs. null sec it would be a improvement to the game.

I also maintain my belief that it would not hurt Null Sov Alliances because they already reap plenty of isk from the renters and resources already at hand.

The majority of the benefit would go to the smaller less organized alliances should they decide to fight for it and redistribute some wealth to the smaller entities in Low Sec. Regardless of how you twist this you know that this would be true...

And as a Null Sec inhabitant I can say without question that most moon miners are lazy and looking for passive isk and would really hate getting sec hits for defending their POS. If anything it would increase the use of merc contracts (those guys like being orange/red) but ultimately it would encourage fighting for the passive income and be harder to fight for with stations in systems that can be docked at vs. stations that have restricted docking.

Now would CCP implement this ? Who knows, but being it would be a isk sink from increased combat and POS warfare in Low maybe. Unless of course some of the people making the decisions are also players holding these nice fat incomes

or easier way to fix it... make the tech moons produce more tech :) and also spread out the moons more, making them available more places, that will decrease the value by supply and demand (also considering the cost of mining the moons because of POS fuel price compensation)

The current farce with technetium makes the dysprosium, Promethium system look great.

I wish ccp would get their head out of their ass and address either the types of materials used in t2 production or just move the moons away from all being in the north controlled by a cartel of players.

Heck, it might make being in 0.0 space more interesting.

Mfume Apocal



Personally I understood your statement, what part of large alliances have a fairly risk free isk faucet and it is unbalanced at the time did you not understand ?

The valuable materials offered by R64 moons should be redistributed and with that in mind the reward should have a risk involved. So even if the big boys flexed their muscles and controlled the low sec moons that provided these nice fat passive incomes they would need to do it without cyno jamming protection, without station docking restrictions, without the ability to bubble gates or be protected deep in their own comfy little pockets of SOV guarded by their members who live, build and work right there at their side.

Personally my own experience says it wouldn't be worth the trouble in most cases and they already get fat enough off renting, minerals, ratting, planetary interaction and other fine incentives to live in Null.

As I said, I live there and I make a awesome living doing so. My point is simple, so simple you should get it.

The moon placement is imbalanced, the isk faucet is counter productive and if there is a good way to fix it why not make it a pain in the assets to get it. Not safe and cushy in a bubbled cyno jammed haven.

And as I also pointed out the low sec guys don't get much love so why not give them something to fight for while at the same time line their pockets with enough gold to challenge the big boys.

You can blow yellow smoke up the retro rockets of a few here but the mass majority I am sure would see the logic in it.

whose c*ck you got to suck for those 2 moons? Just for the interest.

Only one order on market in Ren's at 23.42 eve time on 2-21-2012 for 179,999.00 per unit

Jita several orders for between 138,971.00 to 149,599.00 Per unit.

Low Ball 135,000 x 2,400 = 324,000,000.00 (100 units per cycle per 24 hrs)

Interesting how a man who proclaims he has 2 of these moons can say with a strait face that 324 Million ISK per 24hr day per moon isn't a isk faucet

One Moon = 324 M x 30 Days = 9,720,000,000 x 2 moon hmmmm that is a super cap a month in profit....

You keep quoting one section of black rise as a example. That example itself should serve as proof that holding a ISK Faucet in NULL SEC is much easier than holding it in LOW SEC. Otherwise it would be under alliance control now so it stands to reason this moon isn't worth the effort or someone would be jumping on 9 Bill a month passive income.

P.S. to Mr Danika, try reading the whole thread before interjecting.

The point wasn't to stop you big boys from fighting over it, the point was a better balance and opportunity for everyone to access it. AND for it to be work to get at it.

Seriously mate, plopping a moon miner POS in a cyno jammed systems with bubbled gates and 100 real live guns locally to protect it coupled with station docking rights locally able to be barred....

This is the definition of imbalanced.

Personally I have been with quite a few alliances and they all charge one way or another. Solar is one of the most fair rent bases I have come by as well as they keep their word (unlike many of the other self absorbed egotistical alliances).

But again rent isnt the issue. The large alliances have tons of income avenues, high sec has protection for grinding small isk, Low Sec has been overlooked for quite awhile.. So again the point is... There IS a imbalance so why not encourage you big muscle guys to ight for it rather than just make it a easy isk faucet ? While giving those low sec guys some love.

Isk faucet means isk comes magically, from nowhere. Tech's worth is driven by players (producing T2 stuff). If they stopped buying/flying T2, it's value would plummet and tech would be the next cadmium.



Black Rise is low-sec you mouth-breather. And most of the moons (if not all) are held by nullsec alliances.