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Poll: Getting rid of "Warp to Zero"

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YuuKnow
The Scope
#21 - 2012-02-19 19:59:04 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
Not even sure this is a real poll,
Seems to me you're just trying to boost the likes on your character.


Not really... I wish that the Eve forum had a real poll opinion, but too many trolls on the forums keep CCP from giving us that option.

Who give a crap about likes.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#22 - 2012-02-19 20:00:11 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Doc Fury wrote:
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.


Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot.
ApophisXP
Sadistic Retribution
Sadistic Empire
#23 - 2012-02-19 20:00:14 UTC
Gogela wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Also bookmarks.

F******. Bookmarks.

GTG Regional BMs.

F*** no.

just... no. We're not doing that again.


What this person said.
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-02-19 20:07:28 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.


Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot.




If you were around when there was no warp to 0, why bother with this so called poll? You should already know why they changed it to the way it is.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#25 - 2012-02-19 20:09:47 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.


Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot.



Then you must have never left the station or your system or you just purchased this Toon if you don't remember how much time we could have spent playing that was wasted just traveling a few jumps someplace.

Sure, lets reintroduce a bad mechanic that consumed 25% of everybody's daily playing time.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#26 - 2012-02-19 20:11:19 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.


Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot.




If you were around when there was no warp to 0, why bother with this so called poll? You should already know why they changed it to the way it is.


Nail --> Head

You just hit it.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Ohanka
#27 - 2012-02-19 20:11:42 UTC
Stupidest thread i've read all week.

Except that one about communists taking over eve....

North Korea is Best Korea
Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-02-19 20:14:13 UTC
Posting in a "I'm terrible at PvP so I think of dumb ideas to cover it up" thread.
Adunh Slavy
#29 - 2012-02-19 20:19:56 UTC
Get rid of gates already, shesh

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
#30 - 2012-02-19 20:31:33 UTC
I was there and it was ugly.
SkiD-MaRk
Wambulance
#31 - 2012-02-19 20:36:46 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.


Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot.




If you were around when there was no warp to 0, why bother with this so called poll? You should already know why they changed it to the way it is.


Because of BM's. With the bubble idea that would not be the issue.

Unless you think CCP did it for your convenienceQuestionlololololololol
Inkdew
#32 - 2012-02-19 20:40:01 UTC
No.
SigmaPi
Ambivalent Inc
Coney Island Ski Club
#33 - 2012-02-19 20:41:38 UTC
While I can understand the concern about W2Z, removing it does nothing but make us create those endless bookmark systems again, and unfairly benefits people of a particular region promoting stagnation of travel and roaming.

Again, the concerns are valid, but the irritations of removing it are temporary for the people who live there and then are also a disincentive for people to leave their comfort zone and travel around (especially in slower fleets, like BSs and such).
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#34 - 2012-02-19 20:48:05 UTC
Come o think of it, a poll option would be very nice, especially when discussion multiple potential changes to more than one aspect of gameplay.


Now I want to do an AFK cloaking poll, specifically I want to see how many of the supporters of cloaking changes support each specific idea (fuel, timer, etc).
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#35 - 2012-02-19 20:51:03 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.


Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot.



Birthdate is not necessarily an indicator. One can purchase a character which was created prior to when they personally began playing. Not calling you a liar, just saying. The name-calling sort of turns me off and makes me want to point this out.

Anyway, as others have said, I was there and it really sucked. I spent hours making instas. Became quite good at it actually. Why? Not for pvp purposes usually, but because travel was just slow and annoying. It wasn't fun. Travel is the least fun part of almost any mmo, particularly in Eve, especially in high sec. Find a way to encourgage more pvp - I'm fine with that. Do it at the expense of wasting a significant amount of time for the vast majority of non-pvp related activities - sorry, it does not make for a better or more fun game.

No good deed goes unpunished
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#36 - 2012-02-19 20:57:30 UTC
SkiD-MaRk wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.


Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot.




If you were around when there was no warp to 0, why bother with this so called poll? You should already know why they changed it to the way it is.


Because of BM's. With the bubble idea that would not be the issue.

Unless you think CCP did it for your convenienceQuestionlololololololol



It has nothing to do with bm's. BM's were a symptom of the problem. Sitting there crawling to gates and stations was like watching paint dry. Now most people I know play games for fun, not to watch paint dry. BM's were a server drain, so CCP wanted to get rid of them. But from a player standpoint, travel was so mind-numbingly boring that it was actually worth it to spend hours or tons of isk for a way to move quicker.

No good deed goes unpunished
Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-02-19 20:57:59 UTC
While I think the OP's idea is pretty stupid and the only good thing about it is the thread where he's going to get likes even if everyone hates the removal of wtz and votes accordingly, I must say... People's failure to read the entirety of the original post(s) and then reply making it obvious that they only read every fifth sentence is pretty funny.

(I suggest they try this: anchor a large T2 bubble somewhere and pretend the center of it, the warp disruption field generator, is the intsta-jump point of the gate. Then make a bookmark there. Then try warping to their bookmark in anything but an interdiction nullified T3. There will probably be some way to game the system once again because if ever implemented--lolnoplz--something would probably be screwed up, but either way, a simple "but bookmarks!" answer is still kind of dumb)
YuuKnow
The Scope
#38 - 2012-02-19 20:59:31 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Then you must have never left the station or your system or you just purchased this Toon if you don't remember how much time we could have spent playing that was wasted just traveling a few jumps someplace.

Sure, lets reintroduce a bad mechanic that consumed 25% of everybody's daily playing time.

Nope. Been around from the beginning. Back before Lord Zap and the m0o crew got caught hacking the Eve Servers. Before damage mods had stacking penalties, and before the first null sec alliances were even formed. Your a dumbass.

Sasha Azala wrote:
If you were around when there was no warp to 0, why bother with this so called poll? You should already know why they changed it to the way it is.


Yes, but there's a concept that may be too advanced for you to comprehend... maybe you'll be able to master it someday... its the concept of pros and cons. For every change there is a pro... and there is a con. The pro (and motivation) of that move was that it brough down travel times (and everyone had instajumps anyway.. back then that's what we called them), but there were cons. The biggest is that it without a doubt, made the galaxy a safer place to live and travel. Much easier to evade war dec corps. Much easier to hide in stations. Much easier to break through gate camps. (I remember my travel fit for my BS had 5 WCS... can't catch me!)

So whether or not the added convience was worth the price that it made the galaxy a safer place to fly is something to think about. CCP has already stated (and most players agree) and the *risk* of undocking has been diminished and that War itself is somewhat broken... Its something to think about why that's the case.

The original purpose of the thread was an open discussion on the pro/cons of each (not an endorsement of one or the other)... but I forgot how about the epidemic of micro-phallic syndrome on the forums these days.Roll
Katherine Starlight
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-02-19 21:06:57 UTC
Sounds like OP is a butthurt gatecamper, if you don't know how to catch people learn it, its very easy to catch anything that isnt a travel fit strategic cruiser, and some covops that pulse MWD/cloak and run away.

Learn to play the game

Removing warp to zero would be like an empty filler they put in **** games like SWTOR, where you have to run literally over ten minutes just to have an NPC say two lines of words to you, then you have to run back those ten minutes and tadah mission complete. An empty filler. EVE does not need that, we players are the history, action, where its at.

Juse because you fail doesent mean the system should change so that would be impossible for you to fail, oh no boy, you need to learn to play.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#40 - 2012-02-19 21:09:22 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Maxpie wrote:
Anyway, as others have said, I was there and it really sucked. I spent hours making instas. Became quite good at it actually. Why? Not for pvp purposes usually, but because travel was just slow and annoying. It wasn't fun. Travel is the least fun part of almost any mmo, particularly in Eve, especially in high sec. Find a way to encourgage more pvp - I'm fine with that. Do it at the expense of wasting a significant amount of time for the vast majority of non-pvp related activities - sorry, it does not make for a better or more fun game.


A valid point. Not some much a concern for frigates and cruisers, but battleships, orcas, haulers, and freighters would be quite a lengthy endevor.

... just brainstorming on so of the potention pro/cons for changes to bring the "everytime you dock you risk loosing your ship" back to Eve...

*scratches chin*