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Poll: Getting rid of "Warp to Zero"

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YuuKnow
The Scope
#1 - 2012-02-19 19:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Maybe we can do this in a quasy-poll-like fashion. If you like this idea hit the like button on this post. If you think this is a bad idea, hit the like button on the post below. That way we can "poll" the forum-base.

I'm curious to how many players think that getting rid of the "warp-to-zero" option for gates and station would make gameplay more interesting and fun, or less interesting and more a pain. The concept would be to get rid of the warp to zero option for all gates and stations. Instajump bookmarks would not work as well because a sortof 'warp-distruption' bubble would exist around the stations and gates which automatically drops ships out of warp at the 15km point.
Like this post if you like this idea. Some example reasons to like this idea are

1. Gate-camping would be even more effective.
2. Easier to patrol your claimed territor because you can catch intruders more easily
3. Hi-sec War declarations would be more fun and effective because you have more opprotunity to 'catch' your enemies
4. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be more common
5. It would multiple the advantage of smaller faster ships as more useful than larger ships.
6. Other.

Post alternative, reasoning below.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#2 - 2012-02-19 19:17:25 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Like *this* post if you think that getting rid of warp-to-zero would be a bad idea and make the game less fun.

Some example reasons to *not* like this idea are.

1. Travel times would be longer. Much, much longer in larger ships.
2. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be easier and more common.
3. Breaking through low sec and null sec gate camps would be harder.
4. Avoiding warring oponents would be harder.
5. Other

These are basically convience and anti-pvp reasons.

Post alternative ideas, reasoning below.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#3 - 2012-02-19 19:17:39 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
This is also a test of the basic literacy of the Eve Forum inhabitants. I predict that most will completely miss the point that
1) the mechanics would make instajumps not a viable option.
2) miss the point that this is a poll and not choose 'like' for either of the options above.
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-02-19 19:20:54 UTC
How about keep it as it is.

Seem to remember there was no warp to 0 around 2005. 30 jumps back then was a far more boring that it is today when you're not afk.

Although I was out of the game at the time warp to 0 was introduced I believe it was introduced to reduce lag, at least that's what I heard.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-02-19 19:21:30 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
My pvp side tingles but my orca side is repulsed.

Also bookmarks.
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-19 19:23:12 UTC
you want to make the gay gate camps even gayer?
YuuKnow
The Scope
#7 - 2012-02-19 19:24:42 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
My pvp side tingles but my orca side is repulsed.

Also bookmarks.


Well the concept would be that instajump bookmarks wouldn't work, because the gates/stations would act like warp-inhibitor bubbles dropping any ship out of warp at 15km even if the ship was trying to use bookmarks.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#8 - 2012-02-19 19:25:57 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Also bookmarks.

F******. Bookmarks.

GTG Regional BMs.

F*** no.

just... no. We're not doing that again.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-02-19 19:26:00 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
My pvp side tingles but my orca side is repulsed.

Also bookmarks.


Well the concept would be that instajump bookmarks wouldn't work, because the gates/stations would act like warp-inhibitor bubbles dropping any ship out of warp at 15km even if the ship was trying to use bookmarks.


We will find a way.
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-02-19 19:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzzmong
Edit: Already said.
Endeavour Starfleet
#11 - 2012-02-19 19:30:15 UTC
No thanks.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-02-19 19:36:22 UTC
Blue Harrier
#13 - 2012-02-19 19:36:32 UTC
I do wish people would stop trying to change the game to work ‘their way’ and not just play the game as it is.

When I started playing the message was ‘Adapt or Die’ and this is how the game should be played. Most of the posts from ‘I don’t like this aspect of the game change it’, is because they can’t be bothered to do just that.

I don’t like some aspects of PI but its CCP’s game and unless the problem is a real bug or major game changing problem that needs to be dealt with I just work around it and carry on playing.

Stop trying to change my game, if you don’t like it the way it is, go play something else until it becomes ‘your’ game.

Sorry but threads like this just drive me up the wall, think yourself lucky you have a game like this to even play, my first game was ‘Colossal Caves’ and you had to type everything in to answer questions like ‘There is a door E, N and S’.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.

YuuKnow
The Scope
#14 - 2012-02-19 19:36:53 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
baltec1 wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
My pvp side tingles but my orca side is repulsed.

Also bookmarks.


Well the concept would be that instajump bookmarks wouldn't work, because the gates/stations would act like warp-inhibitor bubbles dropping any ship out of warp at 15km even if the ship was trying to use bookmarks.


We will find a way.


How? Be specific.
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-19 19:49:48 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
How? Be specific.


Bookmark 20km behind the gate and warp to 20. Unless you mean that every gate really has a bubble that will take down any ship that approaches or even passes by if there's a gate in between destinations forcing ships to take a detour between. What if the ship appears behind the gate and has to travel 30km before being able to jump? Two bookmarks around every gate to make a detour?

That said I think this is a bad idea.Orca and freighter pilots will hate this. Battleships become even less favoured because slowness is more apparent, not that they are that popular to begin with. It reduces the eagerness to go solo in lowsec and might drop even more new players from trying as there is no way one can survive a quick run. And of course more blobs because you can't be sure if there's a blob waiting.

This post was rated "C" for capsuleer.

Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#16 - 2012-02-19 19:52:08 UTC
This topic is filled with no.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-02-19 19:52:32 UTC
Its not a pretty thought thinking about what it would be like to go back to the days where everybody has over a thousand bookmarks just for getting from gate to gate.

If this was implemented as proposed by the OP, I predict an in-game riot. This is wrong on so many levels, I wouldn't even know where to begin the mammoth task of rebutting this foolishness.

*shudder*

no...just......no.
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-02-19 19:54:18 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
This is also a test of the basic literacy of the Eve Forum inhabitants. I predict that most will completely miss the point that
1) the mechanics would make instajumps not a viable option.
2) miss the point that this is a poll and not choose 'like' for either of the options above.




Not even sure this is a real poll,


Seems to me you're just trying to boost the likes on your character.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#19 - 2012-02-19 19:57:03 UTC
Keras Authion wrote:
Bookmark 20km behind the gate and warp to 20. Unless you mean that every gate really has a bubble that will take down any ship that approaches or even passes by if there's a gate in between destinations forcing ships to take a detour between. What if the ship appears behind the gate and has to travel 30km before being able to jump? Two bookmarks around every gate to make a detour?


Yes, a bubble, will take down any ship that approaches. I don't think that there are any gates so perfectly lined up that they will take down each other's traffic.

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That said I think this is a bad idea.Orca and freighter pilots will hate this. Battleships become even less favoured because slowness is more apparent, not that they are that popular to begin with. It reduces the eagerness to go solo in lowsec and might drop even more new players from trying as there is no way one can survive a quick run. And of course more blobs because you can't be sure if there's a blob waiting.


This is the type of anwser/opinion I was looking for. Its basically poll to gather opinions and pro/cons. Thanks.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#20 - 2012-02-19 19:57:32 UTC
You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero?

No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot.

/poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread.



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

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