Ships & Modules

Hey guys,

I was wondering about ship scanners and their effect on suicide ganking: don't they give a little too much information with absolutely no defense against them ?

I mean, getting capacitor status and stuff in cargo seems OK to me, but getting the exact names of all the fitted modules seems like a huge breach in a ship security.

How can you let an enemy know exactly what modules you use and have no defense against it ?
Ship scanners are a powerful tool and so could be viewed as electronic warfare.
Don't you think a counter module should exist, even maybe agression timer when using them against a non-hostile ship ?

This of course would be a huge blow to suicide gankers, but come on, at the moment gankers have it much too easy.

Curious to read what you guys think about this

The ship scanner is very inaccurate. Try it a bit more before complaining, thanks.

Thanks for missing my point
As a null sec pvper, do you want other players to know what strategy you are using on your carrier ?
As a mission runner, do you want other players to know that you have faction modules ?
As an industrialist, do you want other players to know you're transporting 20k m3 of pricey ore ?

If the answer to any of these questions is no, then clearly we need a module to counteract the ship scanners.

After all, it is an intelligence gathering module, and there should be a counter to it. Secure containers, scanner jammers, fake dectections systems, I don't know, but I think at least the option should exist.

Thanks, I didn't know that

Now, if plastic wraps can block cargo scanners, why can't I wrap my modules in plastic too ?

It's a means to get intel and intel is power. Cool thing is that you can use it too so while it's not useful to have it used against you, you might as well use it yourself.

Furthermore, in null-sec, if someone tries to ship-scan you, you can just blow them up.

So maybe your issue isn't that they can see your fitting, but that you can't retaliate against them for breaching your privacy. Ever think of that?

Use a ship scanner many times on the same target. You will notice that the listed mods change.

Also, warp faster. Doesn't matter how good the scanner is if you warp.

Not to mention that if you waste a slot on a scanner jammer, then your fit suddenly isn't so pimped any more.

You feel threatened by ship scanners in HiSec? You don't like how some sneaky scout can tiptoe up behind you, find out that your afk Hulk has nothing but cargo expanders for defence, and reports back to his merry band of jihadists?

Well tough!

If someone actually takes the effort to examine their target, they should get rewarded for their effort.

Of course, implementing scanner jammers like that would be plain stupid, thanks for pointing it.

But what if instead of completely jamming the scan, you would only get other results, like a Ballistic Control System I instead of a Caldari Navy BCS or even random like a EM hardener replaced by a Cap Booster ?
This is how counter-intelligence works, by feeding false information to the ennemy.