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Scars or "Come on, that's not real, stop playing"
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Alain Kinsella
#21 - 2012-02-11 08:16:47 UTC
My 'scarring' is actually a combination of childhood acne and a pox-like disease that spread through my neighborhood.

I'm the only survivor from four generations of my family. My old Nahvah and his group were my adopted family for a couple years, prior to my accepting the Capsule procedure.

"The Meta Game does not stop at the game. Ever."

Currently Retired / Semi-Casual (pending changes to RL concerns).
Drasden
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-02-11 11:50:45 UTC
Every single person on this channel who has a scar (Or, very nearly all of them) will have a story to go along with it. Many will he glorious, most will have some personal meaning, and a few will be humorous. This is because there are two sorts of capsuleers who clone into scarred bodies: those who experienced something worth remembering, and those who want to look like they experienced something worth remembering.

I cannot say that I know anyone who has spoken here personally, so in turn I cannot speak to the validity of any claims made on a case-by-case basis, but I would be very surprised to learn that none of them belong to the latter group.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#23 - 2012-02-11 13:42:43 UTC
Drasden wrote:
Every single person on this channel who has a scar (Or, very nearly all of them) will have a story to go along with it. Many will he glorious, most will have some personal meaning, and a few will be humorous. This is because there are two sorts of capsuleers who clone into scarred bodies: those who experienced something worth remembering, and those who want to look like they experienced something worth remembering.

I cannot say that I know anyone who has spoken here personally, so in turn I cannot speak to the validity of any claims made on a case-by-case basis, but I would be very surprised to learn that none of them belong to the latter group.



It was an obvious answer, but apparently it was needed in this thread. Well spoken.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#24 - 2012-02-11 14:50:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores
Perhaps it is worth looking at Federal health records at the interstellar level, to see the level of facial injury and scarring amongst spacers, and compare it to records from a particularly populous world. Because it certainly seems disproportionate how many of us have these facial injuries.
Drasden
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-02-11 15:36:41 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Perhaps it is worth looking at Federal health records at the interstellar level, to see the level of facial injury and scarring amongst spacers, and compare it to records from a particularly populous world. Because it certainly seems disproportionate how many of us have these facial injuries.


Of course, the difficulty with that would be the discrepency between injury rates in the Federation and elsewhere. I see far more scars among capsuleers than any other group, but I have noticed that the 'martial' races amongst the baselines tend to be more prone to them than most: the Khanid, Brutor, and Civire all have more than their fair share of combat enthusiasts, and thus tend to take more injuries than average.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#26 - 2012-02-11 15:45:12 UTC
scars? i have a feaking metal plate in my head! You know how it feels if you fire a EM smartbomb?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Gottii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-02-11 16:09:09 UTC
These are my scars. I earned them. Some through bravery, some through stupidity, some through the cruelty of others. All serve as reminders. My scars and my marks tell my story, to both my lodge and myself.
Gaddeon Dethahal
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-02-11 21:08:01 UTC
My scar is actually not a scar, but a genetic defect that's present in all my clones unfortuantely.
Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#29 - 2012-02-11 22:48:36 UTC
id call my scars a reminder of know whats right and wrong. which wasnt as clear in my past life thus need of a reminder.

doing the right thing isnt as clear as following orders.
Jev North
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-02-11 23:00:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jev North
About two years ago, some friendly gentlemen affiliated with Einherjar Rising relieved me of an awful lot of illusions regarding my piloting skills, and my original body along with them -- including all of the old scars, nicks, and dents. My new clones don't have them. I never saw the need. Why, I'm not sure. I did feel I should keep my clone's apparent age roughly in sync with my actual age.

While developing something of a personal philosophy of capsuleer life, I've considered the actual subject -- inconclusively. Self-scarification for cosmetic purposes strikes me as somewhat vain; but then, removing scars to better comply with an "unblemished" beauty ideal isn't exactly free from that purpose either.

Even if I manage to form an opinion on the matter, I don't really expect to come up with a prescriptive reasoning. I figure that in the end, what people do with their clone bodies is their own affair.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Usagi Tsukino
Carebears -With- Guns
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2012-02-13 01:30:17 UTC
The one below my eye is the result of a cut from when I was sixteen. I guess when they set me up to be cloned, the tech who mapped my face didn't think to remove it, and I really don't think about it as it's not that noticeable.

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Gabriel Darkefyre
Gradient
Electus Matari
#32 - 2012-02-13 02:02:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre
Back before I entered the Capsuleer Program, I served as an Junior Engineer onboard an old rustbucket of an Iteron. Was a good hull, just that the Captain had a bad habit of trying squeeze as much Credits out of every trip that he could so would cut his expenses in whatever way that he could. If there were two parts available, he'd always choose the cheaper option. We got used to pushing the ships systems to the absolute limit in order to meet the Captains orders.

Thing is, when it comes to parts for a plasma engine, cheaper does not equal good quality. Ended up that a dodgy gasket he'd been sold in Orvolle failed at just the wrong moment. Coolant line ruptured, which would have been bad enough, except it was the line for a plasma injector. Really bad things happen when they're not kept cool.

Things like 4 crewmembers being vaporised instantly and a dozen more put into a station medbay for several months with severe plasma burns. 5 of those didn't make it either.

I got lucky and just caught the edge of the blast. Still ended up with 2nd degree burns across most of the left side of my body and several fractures from hitting the bulkhead just outside the engine bay though.

These days, I keep it to remember those that didn't make it, to remember where I came from and to remind me that, despite these plugs in the back of my head or how often I get podded, I'm not really Immortal.
Ares Renton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-02-18 02:06:53 UTC
All scars are cosmetic. The only people with real scars are either floating through space right now or are a trophy in some pirate's cryostorage cell.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#34 - 2012-02-18 22:26:39 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Such a mundane topic, but it has been at the back of my mind for a while now.

I notice there is a considerable amount of capsuleers with scars on their face, and we do have the technology available to apply so-called 'designer' or cosmetic scars.

Though, I'm curious. Which of you have actual, legitimate scars on your face, and which of you are just wearing it cosmetically?

It goes without saying that the vast majority of individuals who pass through a military career emerge scarless as far as their face is concerned as, you know, we're sort of trained to avoid getting injured in the face, as well as considering modern medicine. The torso and legs also remain the easiest targets, and that's where the occassional plasma burn or bullet wound of mine reside (though showing them off to anyone is no one's business).

Who uses swords and sabres in modern warfare when we have guns to blow your hands off anyway?


For once I have to concede that this is a reasonable point, but also one of aesthetics primarily, I would never let a scar desecrate my body or face longer than it had to, however related to that, you don't think my hair color is real either do you?
Ares Renton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-02-18 22:40:22 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Such a mundane topic, but it has been at the back of my mind for a while now.

I notice there is a considerable amount of capsuleers with scars on their face, and we do have the technology available to apply so-called 'designer' or cosmetic scars.

Though, I'm curious. Which of you have actual, legitimate scars on your face, and which of you are just wearing it cosmetically?

It goes without saying that the vast majority of individuals who pass through a military career emerge scarless as far as their face is concerned as, you know, we're sort of trained to avoid getting injured in the face, as well as considering modern medicine. The torso and legs also remain the easiest targets, and that's where the occassional plasma burn or bullet wound of mine reside (though showing them off to anyone is no one's business).

Who uses swords and sabres in modern warfare when we have guns to blow your hands off anyway?


For once I have to concede that this is a reasonable point, but also one of aesthetics primarily, I would never let a scar desecrate my body or face longer than it had to, however related to that, you don't think my hair color is real either do you?


On the other hand, these goggles are actually part of my face.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#36 - 2012-02-19 10:27:52 UTC
Like has been explained in the thread, scars are marks of a life lived. Duels, accidents, wars... Culturally, to remove a scar, same as to remove a tattoo, is to make a statement: I do not want that to be part of me anymore. It can be done, but the default would be to keep the reminder.

The Gallentean idea of beauty seems to be that of youth and, as far as possible, unblemished, "perfect" faces and bodies. That is puzzling to me and mine: why would you want to look like someone without experience, without any life behind them - like " a noob", to borrow pilot slang?
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2012-02-19 13:11:50 UTC
Matter of personnal and cultural aesthetics, nothing more.

And as much as some might want to play on their experienced image and look, others might want to play on the opposite : appearing less experienced or seasoned than they really are.
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