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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#1 - 2012-02-18 03:35:56 UTC
I'll be working on R&D agents, and just would like to clear up a couple of things;

1) Why would I research Nuclear Physics past lvl 1, is it extra reseach points?

2) If I only want to sell the datacore, I dont need to train Laboratory Operation & Research at all do I?

Thank you for any feedback.

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Thur Barbek
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-02-18 04:42:29 UTC
1. Higher levels of the science skill = more research points.

2. Those skills do not affect datacore farming at all
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#3 - 2012-02-18 05:07:35 UTC
Thur Barbek wrote:
1. Higher levels of the science skill = more research points.

2. Those skills do not affect datacore farming at all


Thanks for that.

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Whiteknight03
Trilon Industries and Exploration
#4 - 2012-02-18 05:28:28 UTC
Research V is required for Research Project Management, which allows you to use more R&D agents at a time. Might be worth it if you really want to focus on R&D.
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#5 - 2012-02-18 06:20:47 UTC
Whiteknight03 wrote:
Research V is required for Research Project Management, which allows you to use more R&D agents at a time. Might be worth it if you really want to focus on R&D.


Oh......... thatll add a bit of time to my skill que :|

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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-18 14:46:40 UTC
You need for example skill level 3 in the science skill (nuclear physics etc) to access level 3 agents
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-19 02:23:42 UTC
Yeah, to get the full 6 agents is quite a bit of training time, but it's a huge upgrade compared to starting out with level 1 and one agent.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#8 - 2012-02-19 13:35:22 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
You need for example skill level 3 in the science skill (nuclear physics etc) to access level 3 agents


I've heard conflicting reports on that within the past few months. Some say "level 1 is all you need, but you'd be a fool not to train it to IV" - others are saying that you need the identical level in the datacore science skill to match the agent's level.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-02-19 16:30:40 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
I've heard conflicting reports on that within the past few months. Some say "level 1 is all you need, but you'd be a fool not to train it to IV" - others are saying that you need the identical level in the datacore science skill to match the agent's level.


It is a bit unclear and might even be agent related as R&D agents are a bit... wonky. In my experience though all you need is lvl 1 in a skill to work with any level agent, so put me in the "Level 1 is all you need, but you'd be a fool not to train it to IV" crowd (actually I trained mine to V even).
Atossa Exior
Midnight Conclave
#10 - 2012-02-20 03:58:56 UTC
You need the science skill at the level of the agent you want to use, i.e. rocket science IV to use lvl IV agents. Negotiations also effects RP gained but I'm unsure on the exact rate.
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#11 - 2012-02-20 11:49:56 UTC
And actually the evelopedia article is so outdated that it confuses the whole issue also, some of the R&D agents mentioned there, dont even exist anymore What?

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Rhianna Ghost
Ghost Industries Inc.
#12 - 2012-02-20 12:46:02 UTC
Atossa Exior wrote:
You need the science skill at the level of the agent you want to use, i.e. rocket science IV to use lvl IV agents. Negotiations also effects RP gained but I'm unsure on the exact rate.


No you don't.

I have a level 4 R&D Agend working for me with just level 3 in the researched skill.

Level 1 is indeed enough, but you will want more for more iskies, as the level goes directly into the formula.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Research_agent#Doing_the_Dirty_Deed:

As far as I know, the formular is accurate.

Rhia.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#13 - 2012-02-20 14:46:48 UTC
Connections no longer has an effect on the RP/day. At least, not corporate standing (NPC corp -> you). I have not had time to test whether grinding up personal standing with the agent (agent -> you) has an effect.

Negotiations does have an effect (tested that myself).
Rahl Gryphon
Ovistavin Enterprises
#14 - 2012-02-20 16:56:59 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Connections no longer has an effect on the RP/day. At least, not corporate standing (NPC corp -> you). I have not had time to test whether grinding up personal standing with the agent (agent -> you) has an effect.

Negotiations does have an effect (tested that myself).


Here is what I see with two of my agents. Both of them are level 4, belong to the same corp and are doing the same research. The only differences are one is in High Sec, one is in Low Sec and personal standings with each one.

High Sec - Standings: 5.39, RP/Day: 96.25
Low Sec - Standings: 2.02, RP/Day: 94.10

That is with Negotiation and Connections trained to level 5.
Tyr Kurvora
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-23 13:36:21 UTC
I trained Plasma Physics to rank 3 yesterday and was able to use a level 4 agent as soon as rank 1 was finished. It seems standings are all that matter.
Infinite Force
#16 - 2012-02-23 16:36:25 UTC
Tyr Kurvora wrote:
I trained Plasma Physics to rank 3 yesterday and was able to use a level 4 agent as soon as rank 1 was finished. It seems standings are all that matter.

This is correct.
Once you have the personal standings to use the agent, the only thing the Science skills (e.g. Plasma Physics, Nuclear, etc.) give you is an increase in datacore RP/day.

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