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Custom Paint as part of the NEX

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Ivan En'Vec
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#1 - 2012-02-17 20:24:04 UTC
I might be off base, but I find it worrying that the first Ishukone Scorpion skin is being given out as part of the fanfest poker tournament. From all indications, it looks like this will be one of several new ship skins sold through the NEX store.

This is not how we want custom ship skins to be introduced. Tying them to the NEX store - unless they're *dirt* cheap - will basically remove them from PvP due to cost. Rather than having your corp logo and some custom paint slapped on all the ships in your fleet, these skins will end up being confined to station spinning in high sec, waiting to be suicide ganked. The playerbase has been pretty clear about where we stand on NEX.

If I am wrong about this, that's awesome. This thread can be locked and forgotten. If not, it's important that we speak up about this well in advance of the next expansion and let CCP know where we stand. If this is the plan, it also makes it far less likely that an idea like T'amber's custom paint tool will ever be implemented, as it would obsolete these skins. Whenever custom ship skins come out, make it something fun for everyone. Don't implement it in a watered-down form as part of the NEX store.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#2 - 2012-02-17 20:29:22 UTC
Man I wish I could play poker haha

But I'd like to see the NeX being used for custom paint etc and maybe not skinned market items yeah

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Ivan En'Vec
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#3 - 2012-02-17 20:42:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivan En'Vec
As much as I'm a fan of yours Chribba, even custom paint via the NEX seems like a bad idea. We should want to go PvP in our painted ship, not hide it in a station since there's no point to ever bring it.

The introduction of these via NEX would set custom ship skins down a very bad starting path. I'd rather something that everyone can enjoy, on ships we can feel ok to go PvP in. I don't think I'm alone in that line of thought.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-02-17 20:44:48 UTC
Poker is one of the things I do well, curse my lack of fanfest ticket money!

I lied :o

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#5 - 2012-02-17 20:50:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Chribba wrote:
Man I wish I could play poker haha

But I'd like to see the NeX being used for custom paint etc and maybe not skinned market items yeah


I think I would rather see BPC's for these sold thru the Nex store instead of finished ships, although certain ones (NPC corp specific) should only have those BPC's available through thier own loyalty store.

And of course everything should be available for resale via the market and contract system.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
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#6 - 2012-02-17 20:50:56 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Man I wish I could play poker haha

But I'd like to see the NeX being used for custom paint etc and maybe not skinned market items yeah

This ^

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#7 - 2012-02-17 21:07:57 UTC
Maybe if the paint job was cheap in general (like 5 AUR or something), maybe then I wouldn't care much.
Dusenman
Sensible People
Sigma Grindset
#8 - 2012-02-17 21:37:55 UTC
Personally if you are going to add skins to the NeX store, it would be nice if you were able to earn AUR some other way besides PLEX. What about factions tags, Drone AI (is that what there called?), maybe even faction/ officer drops.

I just think that AUR should be more accessible to the masses.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#9 - 2012-02-17 21:45:15 UTC
Eliminate Arum and sell everything in teh NeX for ISK, the existing, well-established currency in EVE.

CCP already sells shedloads of Plex you can sell for ISK we don't need another currency.



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Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-17 21:52:28 UTC
Yeah, real money and the NeX shouldn't be used to give players a superficial vanity items that show other players how cool they are, the NeX and real money should only be used to give players ingame items that give them an advantage over other players...

Oh sorry did I get that the wrong way around? Nevermind, brb while I go spend some real money on a PLEX and then sell that PLEX for isk so I can buy a T3 which I can then use to kill other players, especially ratters trying to earn money via ingame means.

Solhild
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-17 22:03:56 UTC
Forget Nex, use the PLEX store to buy plex and trade for isk. Make skins etc. a bought corp item or an LP store item. Corp ones could be constructed like medals (T'Ambers thing is great), and apply them to a module that plugs in to any ship like a rig. This could involve so many players and enrich our game - is the idea of NeX and all that crap really not dead yet?
Valei Khurelem
#12 - 2012-02-17 22:06:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
WHY DOES THIS NEED TO BE IN A ******* VIDEO GAME FOR FUCKS SAKE?

Don't use stuff like the nex store!

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Solhild
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-02-17 22:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Solhild
....and another thing, the new Reaper model looks crap Sad

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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#14 - 2012-02-17 23:43:06 UTC
Oh FFS! Really? From literally the next paragraph from which you got your information.

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This leads on to another question, does this mean we will be seeing ship skins for sale in the NeX store or by some other method? That is currently not the plan and is not in development so the short answer is no. The Ishukone Scorpion was already created as the first prototype and Game Design plan to release it to everyone at some stage.

So no, there will be no ship skins in the NEX for the forseeable future.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#15 - 2012-02-18 00:07:27 UTC
The problem is they wanted to sell items for a plex without eating an entire plex they didnt want every single pair of pants in eve to be 15usd. though I see where they screwed up. Originally all these items where ultra cheap cents at a time deal but they back tracked on thier destructability which then raised the prices to where they are now.

I say reintroduce destroyabel items. Sell them for ultra cheap like they where before
Rename current items as contracts keep thier prices the same.
Introduce ship paint jobs in the same manner cheap one use, and expensive pernaments.

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Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-02-18 01:28:01 UTC
Paint jobs via Nex store could work if the item you get is a reusable paint-can. This can be applied to any unpackaged ships. If ya wana make sure its locked to player can have it simply wear off if exchanged (same way insurance goes away).

But yeah, I wouldn't wana spend money on something that went kablewy if shot at. People would kill ya just for the killmail, even in highsec no doubt.
Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-02-18 04:27:06 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Eliminate Arum and sell everything in teh NeX for ISK, the existing, well-established currency in EVE.

QFT. It would provide another ISK sink and would finally get rid of that stupid currency that we shall never speak of ever again.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#18 - 2012-02-18 05:19:27 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

I think I would rather see BPC's for these sold thru the Nex store instead of finished ships, although certain ones (NPC corp specific) should only have those BPC's available through thier own loyalty store.

And of course everything should be available for resale via the market and contract system.


Specifically, the BPCs must require you to gather materials from other players via the market in order to apply the paint scheme / logo / whatever. The problem with the "gold" scorpion concept was that they were going to hand out an entire ship via Aurum, without requiring any other materials from the existing economy.

If it had been presented as "here is a BPC that you can purchase, and combine with items from the player economy" - not many people would have cared anywhere near as much. Because you still would have needed to purchase a regular Scorpion hull plus some other odds and ends, rather then bypassing the existing market.
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-02-18 09:21:59 UTC
I for one dont want to see anything at all introduced though the NeX store, and every time I do I have less faith in CCP.
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#20 - 2012-02-18 10:00:42 UTC
The pic shows 139fps! I call hax!
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