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Frequent updates for those with poor internet connections
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#21 - 2012-02-17 20:00:37 UTC
YoYo Geemo wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Nope, don't get "hacked off"at all.

Last patches download within minutes < 3, installing takes even less, auto reboot then next patch and I haven't lost any valuable time when the game is up to date.

And I do hope they do not stop fixing their EVE game. Ever again.
After the incarna cluster **** up, me like this CCP more then before.


Lol thanks.

But the point of this post is to say how annoying these patches are if you have terrible internet speeds with no viable alternative whatsoever.

So you saying that it takes you 3 minutes and is no problem at all, while quite funny, totally misses the point of the thread.


I just edited my response seeing what your real problem was.

Being a bit rough giving an example, and the example is if you would still use IE 5.5. I have nothing to say about why you still use that but the world around you has moved on. Being stuck at where you are, you can try to upgrade and if that does not work for several reasons, you have to sadly endure that the world did move on while you are left a bit behind.

Yet, you can still play EVE. May take a bit to upgrade, but you are not left out like in the IE case suddenly all sites went HTML5.

It is not again CCP who is doing wrong. Your current situation places you where they are doing right and you cannot keep up.


Have you maybe friends with a faster speed who can send you the new client on a USB stick maybe?
It means you have to wait but don't suffer the burden of having to DL the whole thing?
YoYo Geemo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-02-17 20:00:42 UTC
Sam Bowein wrote:
You should look at satellite connections (downlink only), shouldn't cost you much (40-50€ I think), and will solve all you download problems Blink


Ooh thanks for the tip, maybe I will. I don't pay much less than that now for 0.5mbps...
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#23 - 2012-02-17 20:01:51 UTC
By the way.

YoYo Geemo wrote:
I live in the middle of nowhere ... two reasonably large towns/villages within 2 miles of each side of me


You poor baby.

(I friggin hate driving everywhere)

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
YoYo Geemo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-02-17 20:02:40 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:

It is not again CCP who is doing wrong. Your current situation places you where they are doing right and you cannot keep up.


Have you maybe friends with a faster speed who can send you the new client on a USB stick maybe?
It means you have to wait but don't suffer the burden of having to DL the whole thing?


Yea, I fully appreciate why CCP update lots, to give us the best game possible, and I'm grateful for this seeing as many games don't get as much love or care lavished on them. It's just tough when your internet is so pap.

Good point about getting a friend to download, that could work.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#25 - 2012-02-17 20:03:12 UTC
I agree, IP over smoke signals makes my EVE life a total misery as well.

How to win EVE
YoYo Geemo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-02-17 20:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: YoYo Geemo
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
By the way.

YoYo Geemo wrote:
I live in the middle of nowhere ... two reasonably large towns/villages within 2 miles of each side of me


You poor baby.

(I friggin hate driving everywhere)


Lol I know, and I appreciate that the UK is the size of a shoe, so that's my point - I am isolated here, no-one about, detached and in the country, yet equidistant from 2 towns only 2 miles away that have much, much better internet than me.

Why Lord, why?! Just extend the fricking magic cable to my house, or whatever it is. I was trying to make the point that I realise my internet is bad because I am in an isolated (south of UK definition) area, but two villages/towns around 2 miles away from me get spankingly fast internet.

It's different here from what you may know or be aware of! I bet your 'burb has wicked internet speed for all, even those 2 whole miles away in the same 'burb.
YoYo Geemo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-02-17 20:12:38 UTC
Sorry, got to go and power down now, I'm reading an email on my phone Blink

Seems like chess / learning the trumpet is my best bet
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#28 - 2012-02-17 20:36:36 UTC
Must be hard crashing all the time when you enter a system that has 8+ people in it.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Master Nina
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-02-17 20:50:51 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Must be hard crashing all the time when you enter a system that has 8+ people in it.

EVE itself doesn't use any mentionable bandwidth. never experienced lag on my 0.9Mbit/s connection. Its the patching thats the problem.
jenga
Pearls 'R' Us
#30 - 2012-02-17 20:55:00 UTC
I have to say you all have it so good my 0.9kbps connection makes it true hell to get these patches
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#31 - 2012-02-17 21:05:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Here is the problem(s).


It is impossible to know what will happen to every user when the patch is made live.

And don't say "test it on Sisi", most people don't bother with the test server.Sad


Next problem would be if they didn't release the updates after the patch... being that they would let their game remain in a damaged state. Which would be unacceptable to most of the player base.



So oh well if you have to wait for it to download, much better waiting a few hours than logging on to find you can't play anyway.
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#32 - 2012-02-17 22:11:57 UTC
YoYo Geemo wrote:
UK internet stuff



Bug BT to move the fibre trial to your town. Or are they deploying that already. Also I have read the BT service is sh*t.

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#33 - 2012-02-17 22:16:41 UTC
Satellite Broadband is his best bet. Yeah your internet might be a little choppy in really bad weather (and it has to be really bad) but if you can see the sky you should be able to be serviced with no issue.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
second Tolate
Teknival Info Line
#34 - 2012-02-18 00:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: second Tolate
512/8=64kB/s

usual patch 15mb totals, let's say 20mb

20*1024=20 480


20 480/64=320s

64kB/s you max attainable speed with 0.5mb connection!

you are whining for possible 4min o download per patch and possible another 4min"extreme"
for the optimization !?

how bored are you in life!?
your English apparently, make a cup of tea, take your dog out for a walk!
have a spliff but chill the **** down!
5min man


or is it maybe you have a bedtime hour and those 5min rly fucks you up !?

rage for 5min seriously... people these days, never used the Internet before the 90s eh!?



edit: my bad 5min 20s
Zag'mar Jurkar
Legion Du Lys
#35 - 2012-02-18 00:12:07 UTC
Isn't it frustrating that this game require an internet connection ? I mean c'mon, we ain't in the 21st century ! Are we ?
Shukuzen Kiraa
F4G Wild Weasel
#36 - 2012-02-18 00:27:15 UTC
Miners Strike wrote:
Now I'm no Luddite, and appreciate that games evolve over time, but does anyone else get hacked off with the seemingly constant updates of Eve?

After each update I 99% know that when I log in there'll be another patch that will instantly follow.

This is ok if you're lucky enough to live in an area with fast internet. When I download Eve updates, all other internet business must stop. Any other online use of other PCs or phones must stop, or is slowed to an absolute crawl. Can't use Spotify, can't use Twatter, can't blah blah blah

As I said, I appreciate that CCP is continually tweaking and updating Eve, but boy does it p!ss me off sometimes!

When we used to buy SNES games they, by and large, got it right first time. There was no comeback, so it had to work first time. Of course, working on the PC platform on an MMORPG is different, but it seems that there's always a patch for a patch. Why couldn't the neocom be optimised first time? For the sake of the sanity of those of us whose internet is slower than the post?

It seems like stuff is rushed out now for the hell of it, as they know they can rush out another damned patch.

CCP, thanks for continuing to care, but please would you try to minimise the amount of patches that, although fine if you have great broadband, can really grate for those of us not fortunate enough to have 21st century internet speeds :@

Yes, I am sort of mad!



Did you just ask them to fix less things so there would be less patches?
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