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How many people do CCP have actually testing their patches prior to deployment?
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Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
#21 - 2012-02-17 15:48:19 UTC
I have happily engaged in CTA SISI testing events because not only was I asked nicely, but I am happy to see the successful deployment of features such as TiDi. When asked to come along to those events it is evident that CCP are, in fact, doing some large scale testing.

With disasters like this shockingly poor overhaul of the most critical element of the game for PVP (and indeed PVE) activity I am frankly appalled.

For the smartarse known troll asking what the issues are, feel free to check out the patches feedback thread, this is not the place to discuss the changes, just the glaringly absent competence.
Skorpynekomimi
#22 - 2012-02-17 15:57:26 UTC
TBH, with their content delivery system, the answer is simple.
How many subscribers are there?

When you can get bug reports from people finding them easily, it's very simple to just go tweak something and add it to the next client update or patch.

Economic PVP
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-02-17 16:08:31 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Shepherd Steelringer wrote:
300,000 subscribers


Customers are NOT beta testers or QA.


Oh man... I remember the early 80's when that started to change. By the late 80's? ... This is 2012 - Customers *ARE* beta testers if not what used to be see as alpha tests, and have been for quite some time.

I've yet to see a system designed like those old days where "beta" was "it's done, just need to see if it matches what you expect". That is long ago in a time that seems almost mythical now.

Then again, there was this ugly word known as "proprietary" back then so predicting how things would work was far easier than the mix & match grab-bag systems folks run now - with 900 different background process and 600k potential configurations that they might be running that junk on. Each with their own bugs...

It's a wee bit less predictable now.
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
#24 - 2012-02-17 16:19:59 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
TBH, with their content delivery system, the answer is simple.
How many subscribers are there?

When you can get bug reports from people finding them easily, it's very simple to just go tweak something and add it to the next client update or patch.

Please take a second to read the thread before spouting the same utterances as have already been covered on page one.
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#25 - 2012-02-17 16:53:26 UTC
Anything really shocking here?

Patch
Patch RIGHT after first patch
Patch today..

$20 says that when you eject from a ship the name still gets stuck on the ship so said person now shows up on your overview 2 times, in wose yet a lockable ship not just a bug that aint lockable. (New bug this last patch round)
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#26 - 2012-02-17 17:29:59 UTC
Too many states, too many side effects, oh noes the code base is so legacy, implementing small features takes weeks...

They can have 1000 of those guys and still the quality would be bad. CCP created something they don't control any more. This is not excellence but software grown like a tumor.

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
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