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, instead of . to seperate isk from cent. **** YEAH!

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Balkor Wolf
Doomheim
#81 - 2012-02-17 09:36:33 UTC
I rekon just to make everyone happy (And by happy I mean give them something to rage about because everyone knows that EVE players love a good whine about anything) that we change all Full Stops and Commas to the Squiggly line!

10~000~000~00

Isnt that much better? that way we aren't upsetting any specific nation by chosing one format over another but upsetting all nations! Big smile
Chatti
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-02-17 12:07:30 UTC
Balkor Wolf wrote:
...change all Full Stops and Commas to the Squiggly line!

10~000~000~00


It's not called the "squiggly" line, it's the wiggly line! Twisted
Balkor Wolf
Doomheim
#83 - 2012-02-17 12:49:06 UTC
Chatti wrote:
Balkor Wolf wrote:
...change all Full Stops and Commas to the Squiggly line!

10~000~000~00


It's not called the "squiggly" line, it's the wiggly line! Twisted



le fu-

Big smileBig smile
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#84 - 2012-02-17 12:52:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Tilde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde


But getting back to people, if you want it to change (using windows 7):
Go to your region and language Settings (hit the start key. type region. It'll show up)
Hit additional Settings.
Change the decimal seperator and digit group symbol


As for why it's important to some folks, using Eve Mentat's 'suggest price' feature, it screws up on the paste in.

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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#85 - 2012-02-17 13:09:20 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Tilde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde


But getting back to people, if you want it to change (using windows 7):
Go to your region and language Settings (hit the start key. type region. It'll show up)
Hit additional Settings.
Change the decimal seperator and digit group symbol


As for why it's important to some folks, using Eve Mentat's 'suggest price' feature, it screws up on the paste in.


I don't want it changed in any other program, I don't care what the thousand and cent separators are in eve, the issue is that pressing the numpad . key does nothing in eve market orders.

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Tribunia
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2012-02-17 13:55:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tribunia
I like dots and commas equaly. Peace & Love!

Marlona Sky wrote:
Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.


I m assuming you re not from South America. No one from there would make such a claim anyway.

Idea
Agreeably it might not occur to a north-american, but it could quite possibly have something to do with the fact that so many things north-american are rant-worthy from a non north-american standpoint.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#87 - 2012-02-17 13:58:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Tribunia wrote:
I like dots and commas equaly. Peace & Love!

Marlona Sky wrote:
Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.


I m assuming you re not from South America. No one from there would make such a claim anyway.

Idea
Agreeably it might not occur to a north-american, but it could quite possibly have something to do with the fact that so many things north-american are rant-worthy from a non north-american standpoint.



USAian?

Canadians are north American too.
And some Mexicans, I think.

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Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
#88 - 2012-02-17 14:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Thebriwan
I want to add that there is still a problem when pasting correct formatted numbers with thousand separators into EvE.

I have 100.000.000,00 as value and want to paste it in the input field for a value. That does not work.

So I have to put any formatted value from a calc-sheet or even the windows calculator into an editor for deleting the thousand separators by hand.

It would be really great if this would be work some day!

Cheers
Valei Khurelem
#89 - 2012-02-17 14:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
Marlona Sky wrote:
Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.


Can you blame us? Even the Romans didn't **** up the world nearly as much as Americans are now and the Romans made slavery legal.

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Nemesis Factor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-02-17 17:38:21 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Oh look, another thread that devolved into an anti-American rant.


Can you blame us? Even the Romans didn't **** up the world nearly as much as Americans are now and the Romans made slavery legal.


Only for other nations. Everything is just fine over here!
Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#91 - 2012-02-17 17:50:01 UTC
Now clearly, the only proper and moral way to crack open a boiled egg is from the pointed end.
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#92 - 2012-02-22 22:43:20 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
This still isn't fixed. WTF.

I'm setting a bug report everyday until this is fixed.
Please don't Shocked

We already have a defect on it (and ideas how to fix it), and it's just going to waste everyone's time if you keep filing bugrepoorts on it P

(i'm assuming you were talking about the numpad decimal not working, not what's the correct way to write numbers and dates like some people are arguing about here P.

The numpad decimal should work on your keyboard if it's set to the same language as the regional settings... for example, it doesn't work when I have US-EN keyboard but Icelandic regional settings, but if I switch the keyboard to Icelandic, it works just fine... so you might want to change the keyboard settings until we fix it)
This has been fixed internally and will be deployed in a future patch.

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#93 - 2012-02-22 22:46:32 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Lost Hamster wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
ir'a based on your regional settings... so for example, for the Americans(or anyone using "us" settings) "." is the decimal symbol while it's "," for Icelandic.

I'm glad you like it... should I maybe not tell you that you could always do that by swapping 2 values in the prefs file... yeah, I think I won't P
Any chance to force the game NOT TO USE the regional settings?

I tried to force it by editing the prefs.ini, however that did not helped at all.
No, sorry, I don't think you can do it as it is now (and I don't think there are any plans to change it).
This change was made in the Crucible expansion when we replaced the localisation system used in EVE, to prepare for the launch of more localised clients (currently we have English, German and Russian on TQ, Japanese in beta state on TQ, and Chinese on Serenity).

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#94 - 2012-02-22 22:49:50 UTC
Lost Hamster wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
I feel like having another little rant.

DD/MM/YY is correct.

MM/DD/YY is not correct.

Days go into months, and months go into years. DD/MM/YY is a logical progression of size.

MM/DD/YY, however, is just an eyesore and logical failure.

I can respect YY/MM/DD, but one must consider that when it comes to dates we often care about the day and month before anything else.


Personally my favorite is the YY/MM/DD - and the reason is for that:
Take a program which creates a folder every day. After a year or two, you look that folder, and you see a big mess, as the directories are sorted by the first two characters, so you get a list where it's hard to find - select the days which are within a month.
However if you have the folder structure in: YY/MM/DD then the folder list will be a clean list, where you can easily find the days, which are belonging to one month.
What is correct depends on your definition Big smile

Here's one standard and here's another convention...

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sever ing
Worms United
#95 - 2012-02-23 06:40:04 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
What is correct depends on your definition Big smile

Here's one standard and here's another convention...


Which is why you (and everyone else) should use 3 letters for month, and 4 digits for year.

03-feb-2012 or feb-03-2012 or 2012-feb-03 or 2012-03-feb or whatever, no mistake possible.

While if I say something happen on 10-11-12, you will need to know if I am European or American to know which day I speak about.
(or I could have been Japanese(I think), and the event would have happened in 2010, not sure of the month ... )

So please, for every date, use DD-mmm-YYYY or mmm-DD-YYYY but not a short digit notation. Please.
You can even put the (abbreviated) name of the month in Icelandic or Jovian if you want, it will still be easier to remember than wondering every time you see a date that fall early in the month.

Thanks

Sever Ing
Lexmana
#96 - 2012-02-23 08:08:00 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
I feel like having another little rant.

DD/MM/YY is correct.

MM/DD/YY is not correct.

Days go into months, and months go into years. DD/MM/YY is a logical progression of size.

MM/DD/YY, however, is just an eyesore and logical failure.

I can respect YY/MM/DD, but one must consider that when it comes to dates we often care about the day and month before anything else.


I have to disagree with you here.

YY-MM-DD is the correct one of course. It follows the logic of the decimal system with the biggest units to the left. It also sorts logically with the early dates first. I believe it is also ISO standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

MM/DD/YY is as logical as gallons, ounces (fluid or not) and the english mile.
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#97 - 2012-02-23 08:40:38 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
This still isn't fixed. WTF.

I'm setting a bug report everyday until this is fixed.
Please don't Shocked

We already have a defect on it (and ideas how to fix it), and it's just going to waste everyone's time if you keep filing bugrepoorts on it P

(i'm assuming you were talking about the numpad decimal not working, not what's the correct way to write numbers and dates like some people are arguing about here P.

The numpad decimal should work on your keyboard if it's set to the same language as the regional settings... for example, it doesn't work when I have US-EN keyboard but Icelandic regional settings, but if I switch the keyboard to Icelandic, it works just fine... so you might want to change the keyboard settings until we fix it)
This has been fixed internally and will be deployed in a future patch.



Have my babies ♥

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#98 - 2012-02-24 09:48:08 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
I feel like having another little rant.

DD/MM/YY is correct.

MM/DD/YY is not correct.

Days go into months, and months go into years. DD/MM/YY is a logical progression of size.

MM/DD/YY, however, is just an eyesore and logical failure.

I can respect YY/MM/DD, but one must consider that when it comes to dates we often care about the day and month before anything else.
I have to disagree with you here.

YY-MM-DD is the correct one of course. It follows the logic of the decimal system with the biggest units to the left. It also sorts logically with the early dates first. I believe it is also ISO standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

MM/DD/YY is as logical as gallons, ounces (fluid or not) and the english mile.
ISO 8601 is actually YYYY-MM-DD, and having a 4 digit year is the key to recognise the order. EVE uses YYYY.MM.DD.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#99 - 2012-02-24 09:49:15 UTC
Riley Moore wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
This still isn't fixed. WTF.

I'm setting a bug report everyday until this is fixed.
Please don't Shocked

We already have a defect on it (and ideas how to fix it), and it's just going to waste everyone's time if you keep filing bugrepoorts on it P

(i'm assuming you were talking about the numpad decimal not working, not what's the correct way to write numbers and dates like some people are arguing about here P.

The numpad decimal should work on your keyboard if it's set to the same language as the regional settings... for example, it doesn't work when I have US-EN keyboard but Icelandic regional settings, but if I switch the keyboard to Icelandic, it works just fine... so you might want to change the keyboard settings until we fix it)
This has been fixed internally and will be deployed in a future patch.
Have my babies ♥
Sure thing... how much are you paying?

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#100 - 2012-02-24 10:51:39 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
This still isn't fixed. WTF.

I'm setting a bug report everyday until this is fixed.
Please don't Shocked

We already have a defect on it (and ideas how to fix it), and it's just going to waste everyone's time if you keep filing bugrepoorts on it P

(i'm assuming you were talking about the numpad decimal not working, not what's the correct way to write numbers and dates like some people are arguing about here P.

The numpad decimal should work on your keyboard if it's set to the same language as the regional settings... for example, it doesn't work when I have US-EN keyboard but Icelandic regional settings, but if I switch the keyboard to Icelandic, it works just fine... so you might want to change the keyboard settings until we fix it)
This has been fixed internally and will be deployed in a future patch.
Have my babies ♥
Sure thing... how much are you paying?


One banana tree, two goats and a yo-yo.

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