EVE General Discussion

What it must be like in your head.....

@ Issler Dainze
the more this 2 ppl attack you for the last few pages, and don't accept any logic argument, the more and more i like you because of your responses.
(not only the quoted one... this was just the last one )

Yeah, right. First of all, it's not aggression. But hey, please portray it that way if it makes you feel better.

Secondly, whoever a person votes for is their own private business. I don't see you proclaiming who you're going to vote for, only see you asking if others are going to vote for Issler.

If you really care about seeing WiS on the agenda for CSM7, try asking all the players currently campaigning for CSM7 in Jita Park forum what their viewpoint is about WiS.





lol, seems you don't like the idea of a thread staying active for very long. By the way, you're running down a Two Way Street. The same thing can be said about the amount of 'Likes' the Anti-WiS replies received. So going by your logic, then there's even less people that disagree with the OP since the 'Likes' for Pro-WiS replies vastly out-number the 'Likes' for Anti-WiS replies in this thread.

Actually, it's sad because the 'Likes' don't mean diddly squat and FYI - this thread also get's bumped to the top by Anti-WiS replies. Truth be known, if they had just ignored this thread, it probably would have slowly died out a long time ago.




Hello CCP karkur, thanks for dropping by.
Hopefully you meant 'friends with benefits'.

On second thought, it almost looks like you're issuing a warning, like a prelude to a lock.




I think you have me confused with someone else. I definitely didn't throw a fit nor did I make a statement that they were involved with WiS development.

The elephant in the room is combat.

To fully fit into the world of EVE, fully open WiS simply needs to involve the ability to fight another player. This presents obvious problems and major, MAJOR questionmarks dealing with fundamental lore and game design issues- forced biomassing being the biggest. If you are not in your capsule, and get killed, you die "true death".

I don't know how they intended to approach this, perhaps some new technical advancement in clone-transfer technology?

The current WiS gfx engine can't handle multiplayer combat, with weapons, explosions and what not. Who knows when it can.

Corridor-camping, body-blobbing (stations have physical volume limits), griefing, squad combat interface, station environment destruction, agression mechanics, stray bullets, CONCORD... the list is very long, I'm afraid.

Enabling combat brings also the requirement to defend yourself, which leads to skills. Whole new core skills and weapon system trees, and these would make career advancement terrible for new characters, as they would be forced to train both FiS and WiS skills.

So what about WiS without combat?

It would be limited to peaceful interaction emphasizing the social aspects, which seems to be a big issue to some players. I personally see it would just make the world richer, not everything has to involve gameplay. Realistic worlds do have "meaningless" things and functions, hell, our real lives are mostly meaningless :D

What I would like to see:

- Docking & undocking, unique to every station and POS type (also viewable from inside Ship Maintenance Bay)
- Fully walkable Ship Maintenance Bays (imagine the rows of battleships, complete with your alliance/corp logos)
- Corp War Rooms, where corp members can all see the same info at the same time (interactive fitting tool, new strategic map and new corp performance reporting tools) - basically just give corp members more "flesh" and sense of belonging together. I live in wspace, and my corpmates are just ships floating in a bubble and text in a chat window, voices without bodies
- Some new form of trading directly between characters, maybe to avoid tax? To smuggle items from one faction space to another?

My #1 wish would be to focus (not only WiS) development on Player Owned Structures. Let corps and alliances build fortresses and cities in the stars that they can call their own. Modular, customisable, destroyable :)

Currently the most common POS, that non-interactive stick with a bubble around it is hardly inspiring, hard to call "home".

Its repeated every 5 pages about.

CCP has a very small team of 5 developers on WiS.

Thier main goal is to put in the rest of the half finished cut features from incarna which they hinted at wasnt that many that got started on.

Expect no real incarna improvements for the next year of any sort.

Blog soon(tm)

Cool story bro, but you are playing EVE and the argument is that people are not playing because of teh lack of avatar-based gameplay.

Glad you found something to do that interests you enough to pay a sub.

Hi there... and no, that's not what I meant .... at all!
I'm not about to lock this thread (I don't even have the power to do that)

indeed ,maybe a memo to TA with the questions ,When ? promised? and now what?

But anyway nice to know this thread is followed by CCP ,i hope that TA does the same

lol sorry for not seeing that ,so nice to know TA is following this.
and i try to keep friendly as possible ofcourse

Combat is a loose term in Eve. If you play outside the space ship game you think it is.

From what you squabbeled out though I have to belive that you have had zero combat experince outside the space ship currenlty in eve or at least very inexperinced in it. I do say utterly crushing your opponent outside of spaceship is by far much more damaging than you can possibly comphened. To one point almost every major war in eve has ended becuase of out of ship combat. All that shooting outside the station is background noise, real combat is when you cause your opponent to turn on each other, crush them with your wallets, make them think its end of thier world and there is nothing they can do to stop it.

If WiS where to introduce combat I peferr more of less gun pointing and more devious manners instead.

How would you like to use a hacker obtained codes and software to use in short personal range of your target. To hack thier neo com and steal thier information. Alter thier plans. Inplant listening devices. Funnel some of thier isk.

How about setting up an underground contract to arrange things underhandedly that wont be seen by the API but increases assurance of done deals?

How about a spy that managed to get into the outpost and have him hack the entire station's decoration software to show that of the attacking allaince.

I currently play these sort of games and you have no idea how satisfying it is to utterly crush somone who thought they where entirely safe in a station.