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[PROPOSAL] Remove voting to declare war - outdated pointless system
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K1RTH G3RS3N
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-16 10:38:34 UTC
This system seems old and outdated.
Why, if I am in a 1 man corporation am I voting on anything?
You don't have to vote if it is an alliance deccing, shouldn't corporations within an alliance get a say? If not, then why should corporation have a vote.
Even if there are people in the corp, and shares aren't distributed, members do not get to vote only the CEO does. So, the ceo proposes vote it is mailed to everyone in corp, they get no say in the matter then the CEO has to decide whether he is going to vote yes or no.... hmmmmmmmmmmm.... I just proposed the vote I wonder, I know, actually I'll vote no, thank god for that voting system!
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2012-02-16 13:33:30 UTC
Actually, you do have the vote in an alliance -- it's just kept to within the Executor Corporation.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
K1RTH G3RS3N
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-16 14:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N
Velicitia wrote:
Actually, you do have the vote in an alliance -- it's just kept to within the Executor Corporation.


I have never had to vote as an alliance, I have wardecced dozens of alliances with my alliance and never once had to vote
*edit* i just realised i think i missread your message, i didnt realise the OPTION was available as an alliance.
either way, i was just adding it to emphasize the main point about mandatory votes for corp.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-02-16 15:35:29 UTC
Your complaining about a system you don't use....


Yeah...makes perfect sense.

Go away please.

Come back when you have common sense to talk about this subject again with rationality.

PS: And in-case your nooblet brains didn't figure it out....some alliances DO use the system...just because you don't...doesn't mean it needs to be removed. Derp Derp?

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K1RTH G3RS3N
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-02-16 16:28:22 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Your complaining about a system you don't use....


Yeah...makes perfect sense.

Go away please.

Come back when you have common sense to talk about this subject again with rationality.

PS: And in-case your nooblet brains didn't figure it out....some alliances DO use the system...just because you don't...doesn't mean it needs to be removed. Derp Derp?


um lol, i do use it, i have to use it all the time, i have probably initaited over a hundred decs since i started empire wars. i do it as an alliance sometimes when deccing shadow of blueprints and solar blueprints etc but if i want to dec say some randoms or a botting corp i do it as a corp.

and yes youre right in that it doesnt have to be removed all together but making it mandatory to vote is just silly.

the whole implement sanctionable action thing is broken too, if i have no active decs and hit apply first dec goes through fine and moves to the in effect section. hit apply on the second action and i get message saying too many wars active please remove one you can only have a maximum of three... dec still goes through, two wars are active, second dec stays in the in effect section forever even after it becomes invalid/retracted.

and that's just part of it.... seems to me the whole system has been quite forgotten by ccp if it has had those glitches for quite awhile now, im sure im not the only one getting it since i cant effect the games mechanics obviously... or maybe its just broken for my corp since there are so many votes piled up.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-02-16 18:16:29 UTC
K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Actually, you do have the vote in an alliance -- it's just kept to within the Executor Corporation.


I have never had to vote as an alliance, I have wardecced dozens of alliances with my alliance and never once had to vote
*edit* i just realised i think i missread your message, i didnt realise the OPTION was available as an alliance.
either way, i was just adding it to emphasize the main point about mandatory votes for corp.



Your not making any sense...you said you never had to vote..now your saying you've had to do it every time.

Which is it?

And for the record...I was an executor of an alliacne and a vote was NEVER necessary whilst I was leading a good sized alliance....but I never used shares or any of that crap.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#7 - 2012-02-16 19:40:09 UTC
Wardec voting should be something that could be disabled, either by the CEO or by its own vote. Having to run a one-man vote for every wardec is annoying.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Tyr Aeron
L0pht Systems
#8 - 2012-02-16 23:00:00 UTC
It is pointless having a one man corp and being forced to vote on war decs. I have an alt as my CEO so I can come and go as I please. I transferred all the corp shares to her, just to see if it made a difference....it didn't. Still have to go through the whole vote bs.

CCP, PLEASE fix this crap with the next expansion. There are a LOT of high sec war dec corps keeping the empire economy strong. We deserve a little love for all we do to keep the ISK flowing.

THE ISK MUST FLOW!!!!
K1RTH G3RS3N
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-02-17 00:15:37 UTC
Tyr Aeron wrote:
It is pointless having a one man corp and being forced to vote on war decs. I have an alt as my CEO so I can come and go as I please. I transferred all the corp shares to her, just to see if it made a difference....it didn't. Still have to go through the whole vote bs.


I didn't think to try that yet, thankyou for saving me the time.
K1RTH G3RS3N
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-02-17 00:17:46 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Actually, you do have the vote in an alliance -- it's just kept to within the Executor Corporation.


I have never had to vote as an alliance, I have wardecced dozens of alliances with my alliance and never once had to vote
*edit* i just realised i think i missread your message, i didnt realise the OPTION was available as an alliance.
either way, i was just adding it to emphasize the main point about mandatory votes for corp.



Your not making any sense...you said you never had to vote..now your saying you've had to do it every time.

Which is it?

And for the record...I was an executor of an alliacne and a vote was NEVER necessary whilst I was leading a good sized alliance....but I never used shares or any of that crap.


*squinty eyes* Cant tell if trolling, or... really really stupid.
K1RTH G3RS3N
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-17 00:22:51 UTC  |  Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N
Also drake, quick English lesson for you the difference between your and you're WITH PICTURES
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-17 01:05:55 UTC
K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Actually, you do have the vote in an alliance -- it's just kept to within the Executor Corporation.


I have never had to vote as an alliance, I have wardecced dozens of alliances with my alliance and never once had to vote
*edit* i just realised i think i missread your message, i didnt realise the OPTION was available as an alliance.
either way, i was just adding it to emphasize the main point about mandatory votes for corp.



Your not making any sense...you said you never had to vote..now your saying you've had to do it every time.

Which is it?

And for the record...I was an executor of an alliacne and a vote was NEVER necessary whilst I was leading a good sized alliance....but I never used shares or any of that crap.


*squinty eyes* Cant tell if trolling, or... really really stupid.


Try reading your own posts....do I need to underline your own words?

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K1RTH G3RS3N
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-02-17 01:37:02 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Actually, you do have the vote in an alliance -- it's just kept to within the Executor Corporation.


I have never had to vote as an alliance, I have wardecced dozens of alliances with my alliance and never once had to vote
*edit* i just realised i think i missread your message, i didnt realise the OPTION was available as an alliance.
either way, i was just adding it to emphasize the main point about mandatory votes for corp.



Your not making any sense...you said you never had to vote..now your saying you've had to do it every time.

Which is it?

And for the record...I was an executor of an alliacne and a vote was NEVER necessary whilst I was leading a good sized alliance....but I never used shares or any of that crap.


*squinty eyes* Cant tell if trolling, or... really really stupid.


Try reading your own posts....do I need to underline your own words?


ok well for the sake of assuming you're not a troll i will underline YOUR words and answer them for you.

you're getting two separate things mixed up ill make it very simple for you:

I have never had to vote AS AN ALLIANCE.

I have always had to vote AS A CORP.

See the difference yet?

Also, it is you're not your.... as in "you are not making any sense" not "the not making of any sense is belong to you"