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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3001 - 2012-02-16 22:55:03 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:


Firing 20% of your own staff is quite easy if you rehire them in other positions. Such as the awsomeUI developer WoD and refired to help on eve UI instead, the one better known as punkturis.


I don't know where you got this but I've never worked on WoD.. for those 2,5 years I've worked for CCP i've only been working on EVE UI.

I <3 EVE


Thanks for posting, obviously CCP is watching this thread.


Next time how about adding some text pertaining to the thread topic, please?


I've never worked on WiS so I don't know anything about it and can therefore not comment on it.. I just wanted to fix this misunderstanding of me being a former WoD dev...

Ahhh, thanks for clarifacation.

As for having no opinion on WiS, you do log into the game every once in a while, correct? At least I hope so, seems strange that a Dev wouldn't test out the content thats been added to the game.

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Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3002 - 2012-02-16 22:58:40 UTC
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3003 - 2012-02-16 23:00:30 UTC
Elanor Vega wrote:
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3004 - 2012-02-16 23:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
\o/

There's been a lot more than just a dozen players posting in this thread.

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Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3005 - 2012-02-16 23:05:18 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Elanor Vega wrote:
This thread passed 3000. post... Big smileBig smileBig smile



Brought to you by the same dozen players who post here!








List, lets say, last 50 pages.
And count how many my posts are there.
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3006 - 2012-02-16 23:09:13 UTC
lot's of butthurt sperglords up in here
Jita Alt666
#3007 - 2012-02-16 23:13:00 UTC
So how many people who post in this thread are going to vote for Issler?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3008 - 2012-02-16 23:16:00 UTC
Not me.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3009 - 2012-02-16 23:21:02 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
So how many people who post in this thread are going to vote for Issler?


Why do you care?

How about Non-yah, as in 'none of your business'.

Berke Negri wrote:
lot's of butthurt sperglords up in here


Please refrain from referencing yourself and your corpmates as 'lots of butthurt sperglords', no matter how true it might be.

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Aquila Draco
#3010 - 2012-02-16 23:21:21 UTC
Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
...stufz...


Trinity is used for space.
Enlightenment Engine is used for WoD and WiS.

Avatar and indor graphic tech is developed for WoD using the Enlightenment Engine and then is applied for CQ too.

Carbon is just marketing name for all tech CCP have developed.


And how you ppl can not understand... there is no EVE or WoD of DUST...
There is only CCP - the development studio.
They use tech they have or can buy for what ever they think will gain them more money.
All avatar and indor graphic is made for WoD and EVE have free tech that EVE would not got on its own. Its too $$$ tech to develop so that its only used for old game.
Yea... we must realize that -> EVE is old and look at other games that are old as EVE - either they are dead or there is successor on the way.
Because that EVE need something new or it will be dead.

You can say that EVE have 300.000/400.000 accounts so it can live long time with that. Well, look what you write to other players in game when they say that minerals they mine are free. OPPORTUNITY COST - if you invest your time in something and there is something that can get you more money for your time you loose money. There is moment in future when CCP will see that there is better new things to invest hundreds of devs and their time then in OLD EVE, and EVE is dead then.
You, dont letting eve to grow into the new areas to attract new players, are killing EVE. You are killing years of your time that you invested in this game. You are killing your money that you payed for game time.

There is only one direction, known to us, in which EVE can grow and that is WiS.
And there is tech being developed for other game that can make that happen.
Why are you dumb and not letting EVE to live and use that tech?
Why you want EVE dead?

And many ppl like WiS.
Many ppl want WiS.
Many ppl need WiS to play EVE.
So why not give CCP support to make EVE what they want to make from eve - Sci-Fi simulator - and make EVE Forever?

But, i know, there is small part of ppl that are afraid of new things, new ppl, new gameplay and want to things stay how they are. (And some ppl believed them in what ever they were telling them.)
But...
Well... thats impossible.
If you dont grow, you die.
Law of the stronger.


(its late here and i wrote this in half a sleep so i hope that you understand what i want to say.)


p.s.
I know that now i will be attacked my some ppl that many ppl leaved game because of WiS.
I said many times that if they have any evidence of that, show it, but they just love empty talk.
Ppl left because of golden ammo talk, but i don't have strenght to talk about that again.


Edit:
And about that OP is only for WiS here...
LOL... Lol
You ppl that are against WiS are minority, not us.



Nicely said. +1
I don't know what else say on that at this moment.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#3011 - 2012-02-16 23:21:54 UTC
Elanor Vega wrote:
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uhm, wow!

/me does the megathread for ambulation dance

Issler
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#3012 - 2012-02-16 23:30:15 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
So how many people who post in this thread are going to vote for Issler?


So when I started this thread it definitely wasn't because of any CSM plans.

I haven't seen any other candidates put support of ambulation in their platform. I hope we do get some folks in the CSM 7 that will remind CCP how much many of us want ambulation to continue to get some attention in the future.

For now though I'll keep my ambulation support peanut butter in this thread out of my CSM 7 issues discussions chocolate over in Jita Park.

So folks interested in my CSM 7 aspirations would be welcome to discuss support for or lack of over in Jita Park. Big smile

Issler
Jita Alt666
#3013 - 2012-02-16 23:34:34 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Jita Alt666 wrote:
So how many people who post in this thread are going to vote for Issler?


Why do you care?

How about Non-yah, as in 'none of your business'.




Way to take an innocent question generated through a desire to see WIS on the agenda for CSM7 and twist it into a mindless show of aggression.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#3014 - 2012-02-16 23:42:12 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Cearain wrote:

Issler you have bumped this thread to the top of eve general since October of 2011.

In that time this thread has had:
2,981 replies,
71,804 views
but only 187 likes for your original post.

I think the lack of support for your op tends to prove ccp made the correct decision in going back to spaceships.

I'm not saying they will never get back to WIS. But its clearly not the most pressing issue for players despite your efforts to garner support for it.


Those stats mean nothing, especially if you look at all the other posted replies in this thread. Total up the amount of 'Likes' for Pro-Wis replies and compair those to the amount of 'Likes' for the Anti-WiS replies, then post the results. Obviously you didn't bother to read thru this thread.

Attacking Issler and this thread because of CSM voting only shows how little you really know.

Silence, oh ye of little faith, lest ye incur the wrath of the Allmighty.



These stats tend to show not many agree with his position no matter how you want to put it:

Just because all 187 of you tend to give eachother a bunch of likes doesn't mean there are more than 187 of you.

Just because it might be the same 187 people viewing this page over and over doesn't mean there are more than 187 of you.

Just because it is the same 187 of you replying to eachothers posts and getting upset at people who disagree with you, doesn't mean there is more than 187 of you.


You see the point is you guys have bumped this to the front page of the most frequented eve forum since october of 2011 and only 187 people like the original post. That tends to show that very few people agree with him.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Aquila Draco
#3015 - 2012-02-16 23:50:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Draco
Cearain wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Cearain wrote:

Issler you have bumped this thread to the top of eve general since October of 2011.

In that time this thread has had:
2,981 replies,
71,804 views
but only 187 likes for your original post.

I think the lack of support for your op tends to prove ccp made the correct decision in going back to spaceships.

I'm not saying they will never get back to WIS. But its clearly not the most pressing issue for players despite your efforts to garner support for it.


Those stats mean nothing, especially if you look at all the other posted replies in this thread. Total up the amount of 'Likes' for Pro-Wis replies and compair those to the amount of 'Likes' for the Anti-WiS replies, then post the results. Obviously you didn't bother to read thru this thread.

Attacking Issler and this thread because of CSM voting only shows how little you really know.

Silence, oh ye of little faith, lest ye incur the wrath of the Allmighty.



These stats tend to show not many agree with his position no matter how you want to put it:

Just because all 187 of you tend to give eachother a bunch of likes doesn't mean there are more than 187 of you.

Just because it might be the same 187 people viewing this page over and over doesn't mean there are more than 187 of you.

Just because it is the same 187 of you replying to eachothers posts and getting upset at people who disagree with you, doesn't mean there is more than 187 of you.


You see the point is you guys have bumped this to the front page of the most frequented eve forum since october of 2011 and only 187 people like the original post. That tends to show that very few people agree with him.




LOL logic on act...

let see this,
in thread where you are supposed to like other ppl: famous "The Like and Get Likes Thread"
which is around 100 pages long, OP have only 118 likes.
So there is only 118 ppl who posted in that thread??? LOL XD Lol

You are funny little man. Lol

Why all ppl must like OP?
I didn't even read OP. (until now when i was checking have i liked OP, which i did not)
I allways read last couple of pages and that's it.

And you know what?
Even i did not liked OP post, i support this thread and WiS and OP.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#3016 - 2012-02-17 00:20:32 UTC
Cearain wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Cearain wrote:

Issler you have bumped this thread to the top of eve general since October of 2011.

In that time this thread has had:
2,981 replies,
71,804 views
but only 187 likes for your original post.

I think the lack of support for your op tends to prove ccp made the correct decision in going back to spaceships.

I'm not saying they will never get back to WIS. But its clearly not the most pressing issue for players despite your efforts to garner support for it.


Those stats mean nothing, especially if you look at all the other posted replies in this thread. Total up the amount of 'Likes' for Pro-Wis replies and compair those to the amount of 'Likes' for the Anti-WiS replies, then post the results. Obviously you didn't bother to read thru this thread.

Attacking Issler and this thread because of CSM voting only shows how little you really know.

Silence, oh ye of little faith, lest ye incur the wrath of the Allmighty.



These stats tend to show not many agree with his position no matter how you want to put it:

Just because all 187 of you tend to give eachother a bunch of likes doesn't mean there are more than 187 of you.

Just because it might be the same 187 people viewing this page over and over doesn't mean there are more than 187 of you.

Just because it is the same 187 of you replying to eachothers posts and getting upset at people who disagree with you, doesn't mean there is more than 187 of you.


You see the point is you guys have bumped this to the front page of the most frequented eve forum since october of 2011 and only 187 people like the original post. That tends to show that very few people agree with him.



I think it is you that is confused about what likes mean.

A couple of things:

1, The thread is still alive because of lots of different people, now including CCP devs keep posting,
2. The thread has 5200+ likes spread throughout all of the replies with the vast majority being in support of ambulation.

If you really believe it is the same handful of people then prove it or STFU. Feel free to go through the 3K+ posts and tabulate the posters names and also the likes for and and against.

In the mean time, keep looking like a tragic victim of space induced madness with your weak arguments and lack of statistical insight.

If I can prove more than 187 characters posted will you biomass yourself and drop your subscription? Wait, I know what's coming, whatever number I ended up with you'd say they were all my alts.......

Issler
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3017 - 2012-02-17 00:33:53 UTC
why can't we just all be friends? Smile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#3018 - 2012-02-17 00:36:51 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
why can't we just all be friends? Smile


/me hugs CCP karkur
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3019 - 2012-02-17 00:42:27 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


Berke Negri wrote:
lot's of butthurt sperglords up in here


Please refrain from referencing yourself and your corpmates as 'lots of butthurt sperglords', no matter how true it might be.


oh sorry feel free to resume acting like a child and throwing a fit towards devs who aren't even involved in WiS development then
Flamespar
WarRavens
#3020 - 2012-02-17 00:54:26 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
why can't we just all be friends? Smile


Well if you enable the option to invite other players to our CQs then we can be