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Apparently, new Rookie Ships

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#21 - 2012-02-16 17:16:51 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Clearly it's a bear with a fish in its mouth.

/c


Nooo, It's a snuffaluffagus!
Ayieka
#22 - 2012-02-16 17:22:20 UTC
The ibis was the embodiment of caldari ship design, boxy, assymmetrical, functional design. and they go and turn it into a mini tengu.
Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-02-16 17:48:50 UTC
I would like to see the old legacy (post-trinity) ship models reintroduced to the game as faction or prototype ship hulls.

Look at that beauty

There's really nothing wrong with those old ship models in my opinion, it'd be nice to see them still knocking around the universe.
Solhild
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-02-16 18:03:02 UTC
Caladri one looks great, Minmatar is not even slightly great. Shame.
Velarra
#25 - 2012-02-16 18:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
Ibis seems much better aside from the nose / forward section which is awfully reminiscent of the ghastly hookbill nose & the ugly tengu obfuscation manifold subsystem. it's like a ship with an overly long chin.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
#26 - 2012-02-16 18:10:55 UTC
I really really like all the new noob ships except the Velator. The noob ships are your first impression to the game ... this should have been done ages ago. :)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2012-02-16 18:12:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciar Meara
Nova Fox wrote:
Ganagati wrote:
Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs?


yes.

symmetry is expensive.


In symmetry lies the Devil, thus we must avoid all things symmetrical. Agreed.

I don't see a huge change in the Amarr one though, it looks a little sleeker, but as been said, we need to see the maps etc.

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Burhtun
Burhtun Shipyards
#28 - 2012-02-16 18:27:51 UTC
Cool. The Impairor and Ibis are great. Though I agree with the previous comment about the Ibis being a bit long in the neck. The Velator looks very Caldari and Heron-like. Where are the Gallente curves? The Reaper I like the least of the bunch. Shame, as I am Minmatar. Minnie ships should look bad ass right from the get go.
Solhild
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-02-16 19:50:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Solhild
Still waiting for someone to like the Minmatar effort. Maybe it's my lack of subjective talent spotting.
I sincerely hope the V3/new designs in the Spring are better than this and impress as much as the Tornado did What?

EDIT: some great detail on these ships, looking forward to the devblog.
Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-02-16 20:00:14 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
Great allocation of resources.

Redesign ships that get used for a couple of hours before they're handed an upgrade which now looks worse.

Agreed. Really too bad the Impairor has no T2 hull ..

Ganagati wrote:
Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs?

Apparently. They like misshaped things.
Janis Ezra
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#31 - 2012-02-16 20:19:12 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Ganagati wrote:
Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs?


yes.

symmetry is expensive.


1. design half of the model
2. copy&paste
3. mirror it
4. ?????
Alara IonStorm
#32 - 2012-02-16 20:25:01 UTC
IT IS A ******* BABY TENGU THAT COMES WITH FREE TRIT!

DO WANT AND WILL SHOUT IT TO THE HEAVENS!
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#33 - 2012-02-16 20:38:12 UTC
Velator needs a bit more love I think.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#34 - 2012-02-16 20:41:10 UTC
now that I look at it, the new velator looks like a baby talos.

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Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-02-16 21:18:52 UTC
Ugh. The Impairor looks good, but it looks good right now anyway. Great success Roll

The Ibis made me think, wtf is this a Sleeper frig or something? The design absolutely doesn't look like it fits the Caldari look. And it doesn't even have to be the ugly wtf Caldari look like Bantams, Moas and Basilisks. The new Ibis looks nothing like any Caldari ship, the design is completely out of line with the rest of the ships, even the decent ones.

The Velator is lol. Good job on making it look worse. It seems to be unfinished, like it needs plates or something applied, and the color is terrible. The current Velator looks a little ridiculous, but it's still better than whatever the **** the new one is supposed to be.

The Reaper seems to be suffering from the Ibis disease. Whoever designed these likes rounded shapes way too much, and didn't spend enough time analyzing user input on what makes a ship look good. There's so much user feedback on ship models on the forums, only a total lazy ass wouldn't be able to find any. Reaper 2.0 looks more substantial than the pile of scrap Reaper 1.0 is, but it looks way too cartoony and not Minmatar at all.

But of course since design decisions are shared with the public only when they are already past the point of no return, these are what we'll be getting. Color me not surprised Ugh
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#36 - 2012-02-16 21:23:18 UTC
If these really are the future rookie ships, I think CCP did a pretty good job.

The Velator is still an asymmetrical mess, but it has harder lines which give it more of a "spaceship" appeal, as opposed to the current one which is more "spaceshit".
The ibis would have been my choice, had CCP said "choose one of the four to remake". The current version of the Ibis looks like one of those cardboard toys that comes as a flat sheet that you trim and fold into shape.
the Impairor doesn't look all that different. What it needed the most in redesign, in my opinion, was to ditch the rectangular panel-style engine housing. It would be nice to have seen that replaced with something more in line with the design of the hull.
I've not flown Minmatar that much, so can't really comment on the Reaper.

Would be neat to see these implemented.

Profit favors the prepared

Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-02-16 21:26:33 UTC
Ajita al Tchar wrote:

The Velator is lol. Good job on making it look worse. It seems to be unfinished, like it needs plates or something applied, and the color is terrible.


ahem
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#38 - 2012-02-16 21:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Velator: I didn't think this ship could look any worse/more stupid, but there it is anyway. Kinda reminds me of a Junk-yard Eris though, so that's good. The old one just look like flabby, waaay overlong-necked/hunchbacked bit of stupid leering at you, this one is at least more properly hard edged.

Impairor: Meh. Still looks too disturbingly leech-like to me.

Reaper: Too overtly asymmetrical--those engine-pod thingies need to be brought in line with each other on either the fore or aft ends, and the vertical fins moved back out-board where they belong. Also make the pods just a skosh longer. (Lyrra sniffles: I always liked the old Reaper, dammit!) But, especially important--harsher/harder edges needed, this model is a bit too "soft" if you see what I mean.

Ibis: Ooooh, I like this--like a cross between a baby Tengu and CalNavy Hookbill. Nice that they took the second-stupidest, dumpiest, aesthetic joke of a ship and dethroned Minmatar as the king of badassery. Surface detailing's a bit busy for my tastes, but I can live with that.

Ni.

Marcus Harikari
#39 - 2012-02-16 22:18:32 UTC
huh? i don't see any changes
Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-02-16 22:29:10 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
huh? i don't see any changes


Click the link in the OP.

To the guy who said it needs colours etc. - read the video description.

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