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Sir Grimaldi
Allahu Akbar.
Olde Guarde Historical Preservation Society
#1 - 2012-02-16 11:43:30 UTC
Some time ago I was a prominent trader.

Used 2 alts with dual monitor setup. One alt was in Jita and other in another trade hub. I simply used 2 monitor setup to compare prices and see whats profitable to haul.

Sadly my rig is R.I.P. and now Im forced to use mundane tools. So Im looking for some program / website / something that can do this simple feature.

I found EVE marketeer and universal uploader. Good tool. Scaned whole market and simply wanted to compare prices between Jita and my old hub and ofc volume of sale. and failed to find such an option ....

Is there some, relatively, easy to use tool that can help you in market research ? other then pen and paper?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2012-02-16 12:16:54 UTC
well, you could always use eve mentat, to load the market data.

Then do direct comparison yourself.


Personally, I use the unified uploader, with a custom endpoint (in addition to the normal ones. The endpoint code is cheap and nasty. available on my site), that sticks it all into a mysql database. Along with a javascript market scanner (hacked together from the eve mentat one, and a database table of the items I want to keep an eye on), and an alt in each location, I load all the orders for the two regions into the db.

After that, I have some sql I run to give me comparative breakdowns between them. lowest 10 prices for each item, in each region.


You could probably get something similar working with XAMPP on your local machine (for the webserver and mysql), and the unified uploader. There's a quick how to on how to get it loaded on my site. adds in YaPeal too (though you could ignore that), if you want an api pull for comparison. you /will/ want the static data dump, as the order data is keyed against that.

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Kandreath
De Re Metallica
#3 - 2012-02-16 12:18:40 UTC
weeeelllll,

Eve market scanner is one I have used and is good for comparisons. You need to export the market data either manually or with a cache scraping tool.

Another is EVEmentat which I use most often for order management. Again, you need to export the items manually or scan them in game and EVEMentat will scrape them and put them in the database.
Sir Grimaldi
Allahu Akbar.
Olde Guarde Historical Preservation Society
#4 - 2012-02-16 12:25:47 UTC
Its hard to belive that with all marketing tools we have at our disposal that track assets in one way or another, there is no simple comparison tool ...

Item: Zydrine

Region 1: sell / buy / volume Region 2: sell / buy / volume
Tekota
The Freighter Factory
#5 - 2012-02-16 13:42:40 UTC
Well bear in mind that a disparity of information is the only thing keeping such margins as they are. There are tools and sites that will give you an idea but with likely 24 hour old information; there are tools and services that will do what you want with up to date data that will require some manual exporting; and there are tools and services you can cobble together yourself that introduce a degree of automation via cache scraping.

However, if such things were widely available then inter-regional price differences would rapidly fall to a level people are prepared to haul for. And as we can see from courier contracts - people are quite prepared to haul for next to nothing.
Pix Echo
Gloominati Venture Group
#6 - 2012-02-16 18:57:25 UTC
Sir Grimaldi wrote:
Its hard to belive that with all marketing tools we have at our disposal that track assets in one way or another, there is no simple comparison tool ...

Item: Zydrine

Region 1: sell / buy / volume Region 2: sell / buy / volume

It sounds like you already had the perfect comparison tool. You should work on getting that second monitor back up and running.
Sir Grimaldi
Allahu Akbar.
Olde Guarde Historical Preservation Society
#7 - 2012-02-16 19:23:32 UTC
Pix Echo wrote:
Sir Grimaldi wrote:
Its hard to belive that with all marketing tools we have at our disposal that track assets in one way or another, there is no simple comparison tool ...

Item: Zydrine

Region 1: sell / buy / volume Region 2: sell / buy / volume

It sounds like you already had the perfect comparison tool. You should work on getting that second monitor back up and running.



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Had to buy a laptop instead ....
I still miss him.
Deamos
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#8 - 2012-02-17 01:25:46 UTC
Sir Grimaldi wrote:
Its hard to belive that with all marketing tools we have at our disposal that track assets in one way or another, there is no simple comparison tool ...

Item: Zydrine

Region 1: sell / buy / volume Region 2: sell / buy / volume


Funny thing is.. I'm developing a tool to do this in a way in Python. It's got a lot of work ahead..... I am not a programmer by any means, and what I program..is ugly.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-18 09:53:13 UTC
Whaaat, where did you get all this data? You cannot possibly have gathered it all on your own?

It looks pretty epic to me, only thing that is left is right aligning the numbers.

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Deamos
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#10 - 2012-02-18 11:26:22 UTC
Callean Drevus wrote:
Whaaat, where did you get all this data? You cannot possibly have gathered it all on your own?

It looks pretty epic to me, only thing that is left is right aligning the numbers.


Most of the Data comes from Eve Central, and is stored in a local CSV file for historical purposes. Yeah, Alignment is one of the last things I plan to do. First to add in functionality.
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#11 - 2012-02-18 12:37:59 UTC

1) Use the universal uploaded to send timely updates to Eve Central.
2) Write a spread sheet to load the Hub prices from Eve Central, Google is the easiest.
3) Do some analysis
4) Profit.