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Minmatar Republic descending into savagery after abandoning Gallente ideals ?

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Muck Raker
Gutter Press
#1 - 2012-02-16 19:23:26 UTC
Is the Minmatar Republic descending into savagery after having rejected the Gallente ideals that it was founded on?

Gutter Press investigated some alarming and disturbing stories coming out of Minmatar space in recent weeks.

Violence against women appears to be on the rise, with a bathtub-flying pilot confessing to beating women. This pilot was poorly regarded by other pilots, one Caldari stating they were: "Just some Minmatar woman beater. Nobody of note."
Several other pilots were quick to chip in, stating that: "Tribal savages reject Federal ideals, fly bathtubs, beat women"

Amazing!

The Tribal Liberation Force is also part of this moral disintegration. Confronted with the evidence of widespread prisoner abuse and cannibalism amongst Republic military forces, a TLF officer said: " We're a tribal people, not complete savages. Most of us know how to get food from the land. We don't need to eat each other."
Or, as a different pilot said: "TLF denies knowledge of cannibalism caused by abandonment of Gallente ideology."

Sensational!

We asked some Amarr pilots for their opinions, which were predictable.
We also asked some Gallente pilots, one of which said: "This is exactly what I predicted would happen, when the Republic abandoned Gallente idealism. Bunch of subsidy junkies anyway. Everyone knows they couldn't do anything without Gallente aid, and now you just see them doing the same old thing again. Sooner the Republic becomes Federation space and we can clean it up, the better."

Incredible!

Gutter Press will continue to promote Federal ideals, and be wary of bathtub flying women beaters.

Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours!

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#2 - 2012-02-16 20:14:18 UTC
Do you hear that? I think I hear drama approaching.

Katrina Oniseki

Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#3 - 2012-02-16 22:36:21 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Do you hear that? I think I hear drama approaching.


From a Gutter Press article?

You must be joking.

I can't get rid of my darn signature!  Oh, wait....

Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#4 - 2012-02-16 22:38:03 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Do you hear that? I think I hear drama approaching.

i suspect you might have misheard it sounds like great many people slapping hands onto their foreheads suddenly falling silent.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#5 - 2012-02-17 10:35:28 UTC
Muck Raker wrote:
[...] after having rejected the Gallente ideals that it was founded on? [...]



It was?

We did?

News to me (Tarryn chuckles darkly--if you'll pardon the expression!), but...

Well, if the latter is true, then that's the best idea Malateu Shakor's ever had! And to think I'd had him pegged as just another un-disciplined knee-jerk revanchist hot-head that only knows how to play to our collective inner reptile...

(And I'll have you know, our appreciation for fine bathtubs is infinitely more...complex...than anything that could even be touched upon hereBlink)

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#6 - 2012-02-17 15:55:20 UTC
Ever get the feeling that anything you say will be sensationalized, whatever the context?

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim

Gottii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-02-17 15:57:17 UTC
Came hoping to be outraged. Left disappointed.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#8 - 2012-02-17 16:14:50 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Ever get the feeling that anything you say will be sensationalized, whatever the context?


"Teraa Matar Terrorist Kalaratiri Saskia Claims Ability to Predict the Future"?

On another note, anyone who frequents the Summit should probably know exactly who the so-called "bathtub pilot" is... as there's only one who constantly connects to the channel with his video feed showing him sitting in the tub.

Frankly, I don't think it's anything less than unnecessary exhibitionism, and wouldn't mind if it stopped.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#9 - 2012-02-17 17:45:30 UTC
Quote:
Tribal savages [...] beat women
You haven't met many Minmatar women, have you?
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#10 - 2012-02-17 18:01:40 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Quote:
Tribal savages [...] beat women
You haven't met many Minmatar women, have you?


Probably not. I usually hear it's the other way around.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Muck Raker
Gutter Press
#11 - 2012-02-17 18:07:58 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Muck Raker wrote:
[...] after having rejected the Gallente ideals that it was founded on? [...]

It was?
We did?
News to me


If you consult such learned persons as Luminaire General Inhonores, you'd see that the Parliamentary Republic was created from the social wasteland of post-rebellion Heimatar, and was constituted along similar lines to the successful Senate system of the Federation, who played a pivotal role in bringing Freedom and Democracy to the newly liberated people of Minmatar.

Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours!

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2012-02-17 19:06:10 UTC
Muck Raker wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Muck Raker wrote:
[...] after having rejected the Gallente ideals that it was founded on? [...]

It was?
We did?
News to me


If you consult such learned persons as Luminaire General Inhonores, you'd see that the Parliamentary Republic was created from the social wasteland of post-rebellion Heimatar, and was constituted along similar lines to the successful Senate system of the Federation, who played a pivotal role in bringing Freedom and Democracy to the newly liberated people of Minmatar.


Are you refering to Gallentean exceptionnalism ?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2012-02-17 19:17:23 UTC
At last - a fair and balanced piece from the Gutter Press

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#14 - 2012-02-17 21:15:37 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
At last - a fair and balanced piece from the Gutter Press


It's hilarious that Gutter Press evolved from a libelous, heretical, Gallente-backed propaganda tool a week or so ago when they outed your empress and her drug-fueled orgies to being the pinnacle of journalistic integrity with this story. Amazing!!

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#15 - 2012-02-17 21:35:49 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
At last - a fair and balanced piece from the Gutter Press


It's hilarious that Gutter Press evolved from a libelous, heretical, Gallente-backed propaganda tool a week or so ago when they outed your empress and her drug-fueled orgies to being the pinnacle of journalistic integrity with this story. Amazing!!

Less hilarious, and more completely expected.

By and large, PIE and its pilots have rather predictable responses to things like this, with very rare exceptions. If it highlights something bad or unseemly about the Empire or its Empress, or something good about another group, it's unbalanced, biased, unfair and simply untrue. But if it says something good about the Empire, or something bad about another group, it's completely balanced, unbiased, fair and completely truthful.

No empire or faction in existence can claim to be absolute good, nor can many be claimed (by others or themselves) to be absolute evil. All have their pros and cons, their goods and bads, their pillars of society and their criminals. There is rarely just mere black and white in life - as the saying goes, it is all shades of grey.

Don't trust anyone who tries to tell you otherwise.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
#16 - 2012-02-17 22:00:36 UTC
On a side note, matari men needs a good beating now and then. That way they know their place and all is well Twisted
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2012-02-17 22:00:54 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
At last - a fair and balanced piece from the Gutter Press


It's hilarious that Gutter Press evolved from a libelous, heretical, Gallente-backed propaganda tool a week or so ago when they outed your empress and her drug-fueled orgies to being the pinnacle of journalistic integrity with this story. Amazing!!


Well you know what they say - even a stopped watch is right twice a day.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#18 - 2012-02-18 03:25:25 UTC
Muck Raker wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Muck Raker wrote:
[...] after having rejected the Gallente ideals that it was founded on? [...]

It was?
We did?
News to me


If you consult such learned persons as Luminaire General Inhonores [...]


(Tarryn smothers a giggle) ^^I see what you did thereBlink^^

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Ares Renton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-02-18 03:31:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ares Renton
Muck Raker wrote:
Is the Minmatar Republic descending into savagery after having rejected the Gallente ideals that it was founded on?


No, it has been wallowing in savagery ever since it first accepted them.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#20 - 2012-02-18 07:39:12 UTC
Ares Renton wrote:


No, it has been wallowing in savagery ever since it first accepted them.



Who the hell are you again?

Let me answer that for you; yet another arrogant, bigoted, loudmouth who's unable to formulate an original thought and so falls back on the threadbare insults we've seen a thousand times on this channel. Yawn. At least the ossified minds of the usual suspects on the Imperial and Statist sides can come up with something enlightening or amusing from time to time.

A word of advice pilot; you'll be far more impressive and possibly be taken more seriously if you manage to come up with something less aggressively trite or, heavens forbid, get a couple of neurons firing so that you can construct a thought that actually contributes to the level of intelligent discourse on this channel. The bar is set rather low so, I imagine even one such as yourself could contribute if you try very hard or, barring that, pay Jade Constantine to be your ghost writer.

I'd strongly recommend against that second option by the way.
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