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[ISSUE] - Orcas should get aggression/GCC - Exploit.
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evereplicant
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-15 10:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: evereplicant
Ok why this problem or i would call exploit hasnt been fixed I have no clue its been a problem for a long time now

But allowing GCC or aggression pilots to dock up into an orca to completely avoid the GCC or Aggression is completely ridiculous. People gate camping in alt orcas in low sec with GCC can just dock up in the orca and jump out into highsec.

People can can flip or attack some one if a frig, jump in a orca, be safe, jump back out in a legion or something.

I mean Really!!

This should be fixed that if any pilot with GCC or Aggression docks up in an orca then the orca should get the same (aggression or GCC) - I mean jumping in an orca is pretty much the same as aiding, like alt repping, alt rsb isnt it...

If a pirate gets alt repped/sebo'd etc then the person also gets GCC, so why dont orcas! Its completely wrong and to me is a blantant exploit.
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-02-15 10:52:32 UTC
/signed
Jolanda Erquilenne
Blitzkrieg Boyz
#3 - 2012-02-15 12:27:13 UTC
+1
Souvera Corvus
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
#4 - 2012-02-16 03:03:36 UTC
The Orca thing realy should have been fixed by now.

+1
Davader
Space Cleaners
The Gorgon Empire
#5 - 2012-02-16 09:32:42 UTC
+1
lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2012-02-16 09:53:32 UTC
+1
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#7 - 2012-02-16 15:51:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
With how easy this is to pull off I am surprised it is not used more often. Especially with the new tier 3 BC's. You got the alfa of a battleship for ganking in high sec. then dump the ship into a friendly ORCA before CONCORD shows up. CONCORD will not attack a pod so you lose nothing in the gank. Any interaction with a Aggressed pilot should result in shared aggression. whether it is remote repping, or allowing them access to the ship maintenance array and corp hanger of an ORCA.

It might seem game breaking, but if they really wanted to put an end to ganking in high sec they should make CONCORD aggress the entire corp/fleet of the ganker. You are harboring a fugitive, you are as guilty as they are.

Not saying this should happen but the ganker tears would be EPIC.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#8 - 2012-02-16 18:15:53 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
With how easy this is to pull off I am surprised it is not used more often. Especially with the new tier 3 BC's. You got the alfa of a battleship for ganking in high sec. then dump the ship into a friendly ORCA before CONCORD shows up. CONCORD will not attack a pod so you lose nothing in the gank. Any interaction with a Aggressed pilot should result in shared aggression. whether it is remote repping, or allowing them access to the ship maintenance array and corp hanger of an ORCA..


Avoiding concord is a BANNABLE Offense. If someone commits a criminal act and then stores their ship in an Orca to avoid losing it to concord, Report them. They can get banned for this, as it is considered an EXPLOIT.

Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
It might seem game breaking, but if they really wanted to put an end to ganking in high sec they should ....


CCP does NOT want to "put an end to ganking in high-sec". Quite the contrary.... Suicide ganking is a healthy and INTENTIONAL part of this game. What CCP strives is to balance high-sec ganking by:

1.) Creating a "cost" to the gankers. This comes in the form of sec status, ship loss, and killrights. The insurance nullification was ONLY done to increase the cost of ganking.

2.) Providing ALL players the tools needed to mitigate the risks of being suicide ganked. This comes in the form of criminal flags, reasonable concord response times, tanking modules, different ship types, cloakers, EWAR, capital haulers, courier contracts, etc, etc, etc.. Really, people have many, many, MANY options to mitigate the risks of getting suicide ganked. However, most people foresake those options in the name of yield, time efficiency, and/or isk.

Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
It might seem game breaking, but if they really wanted to put an end to ganking in high sec they should make CONCORD aggress the entire corp/fleet of the ganker. You are harboring a fugitive, you are as guilty as they are.

Not saying this should happen but the ganker tears would be EPIC.


lol.... the ganker tears would be thoroughly drowned in the ocean of carebear tears your suggestion would provide. AWOXers would join target fleets, get GCC'd, and laugh as concord nukes the everyone.

@ OP:
You can't board a ship when its targetted.... if they could extend this mechanic, so you can't store a ship into a SMB when it is targeted, most of the ******** ship-swapping could be prevented. It would also prevent scooping aggressed BS's into a carrier, Rorqual, etc, etc...

Your suggestion allows you to shoot the the Orca/Carrier, but those ships can still instantly dock, activate a gate, or jump to escape with the ships. Additionally, they could potentially bypass the assistance-aggression by having the pilot eject from the ship before they scoop it.

+1 to fixing the "store your ship into a ship maintenance bay during combat."