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website idea - quick Jita price checks
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malaire
#1 - 2012-02-16 16:39:49 UTC
With IGB javascript and cachereading it would be possible to implement website where users can request immediate jita price checks - complete with full order listing.

How this would work
- go to website
- select item you want to price check
- (IGB javascript gets request and updates cache, external program reads cache and uploads info to website)
- you see complete listing of all current Jita orders for that item

If several players requests pricecheck at same time, they need to be queued. So I've been thinking whether players would be willing to pay some ISK for pricechecks, and then queries would be queued based on how much was paid. (Pay more, your pricecheck is handled first. If you pay nothing, it is handled after everyone else.)

So I'd like to know:
1) Do you think this would be usefull?
2) How much would you be willing to pay per pricecheck if you get result within 10 seconds?
3) How much would you be willing to pay per pricecheck if you get result within 1 minute?

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#2 - 2012-02-16 17:15:56 UTC
You would fall afoul of the botting rules if you allowed it to read the chat channel then input keystrokes into the client in order to automatically look up the item.

You should instead encourage more people to run the uploaders and to do market-scans of Jita during time windows when they aren't using that EVE client. (Takes about 7 hours to scan an entire regional market. So if you have 7 people doing it, your price data will probably only be 1 hour old on average.)
malaire
#3 - 2012-02-16 17:37:31 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
You would fall afoul of the botting rules if you allowed it to read the chat channel then input keystrokes into the client in order to automatically look up the item.


I would use website for output, not chat channel. Of course chat channel could be used for input (just make program read chatlogs).

Also I wouldn't need to input keystrokes to look up the item, CCP provides Javascript API for that.

Scrapyard Bob wrote:
You should instead encourage more people to run the uploaders and to do market-scans of Jita during time windows when they aren't using that EVE client. (Takes about 7 hours to scan an entire regional market. So if you have 7 people doing it, your price data will probably only be 1 hour old on average.)


I was just thinking if players would find much more uptodate data usefull. 10-60 seconds instead of 1 hour.

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-02-16 18:40:13 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
You would fall afoul of the botting rules if you allowed it to read the chat channel then input keystrokes into the client in order to automatically look up the item.

you don't understand how this would work.

instead of writing a lengthy explanation that you wouldn't read anyways here's an image:

http://i.imgur.com/FKpE5.png

no botting, no dark magic - just a combination of well-known and petition-proof techniques.

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Pix Echo
Gloominati Venture Group
#5 - 2012-02-16 19:02:02 UTC
1) Yes
2) 0 ISK
3) 0 ISK
malaire
#6 - 2012-02-16 19:31:09 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
You would fall afoul of the botting rules if you allowed it to read the chat channel then input keystrokes into the client in order to automatically look up the item.

you don't understand how this would work.

instead of writing a lengthy explanation that you wouldn't read anyways here's an image:

http://i.imgur.com/FKpE5.png

no botting, no dark magic - just a combination of well-known and petition-proof techniques.

Are you stealing my idea? Shocked

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Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-16 19:50:29 UTC
Why?
This works pretty darn well: http://eve-central.com/home/market.html
Just filter for "The Forge"
If you really only want some data, use http://eve-central.com/home/develop.html#xml

There are at least two other sites out there that do this as well.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-02-16 20:18:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
malaire wrote:
Are you stealing my idea? Shocked


lol, no Big smile

(credit for the javascript code I stole for my mockups goes to eve-central. no worries, I haven't written any actual code P)

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-17 22:51:18 UTC
I actually made exacty this (well, without the uselessness of the chat channel, better import it in the website right away if you're going to be using that to show the results anyway) as the first version of EVE Marketeer.

However, keeping an account logged in at all times was... tedious, and at the time I didn't have the ISK to completely PLEX it for months on end to make the service popular.

Have been thinking about reimplementing this in EMK, since with so many people uploading now, it will have a better chance of surviving. You really do not need just one active account for this, since people use upload suggestion pages all the time, you can have those return the item someone else is trying to look up, then after the upload is received at the server, refresh the data the person is viewing.

I had the same scheme with money for price checks, but as I said, it never really got off the ground.

Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer