Jita Park Speakers Corner

I don't care if you order 10 whores to your house every night, as long as you do your job properly.

For me on a fundamental level it's about respect for the people who place their trust in me.

You made the point that it's about doing your job properly. You're absolutely right. However if someone acts unethically or without integrity, then how can you trust them to act ethically and with integrity when advancing your views at the CSM? The fact is that you can't..

AND AGAIN, we say, why would you trust ANYONE just because they are in a position of political "power"?

just cause Obama is the president doesn't mean ill lend him my credit card, social security number, and car keys.

he scammed people before he was CSM, scammed people as CSM, and gosh-darnit he will scam people after hes been CSM, anyone foolish enough to expect specific virtues or behaviours from someone simply on the basis of a title deserves to lose what they got.

To be honest irrespective of a democratic process afforded to the CSM I personally believe that Punktani is offfering no respect to principles of what democracy actually means. Nor is he in anyway fullfilling the outlined obligations as set out in the CSM guidelines. His very selfish interest reflects this of which he is farily transparent about. I would not confuse this with honesty about a stance however, just that he is manipulating and working a certain stance for his own ends.

And then we get the ridiculous claims that he is soley responsible in driving CCP development from his "bar bill".

He also supports gaming stances that are clearly against CCP guidelines (e.g. griefing, Botting for his own alliance).

He also prefers to apply his own juvenille use of expletives (some disfavouring disadvantaged groups) in communication with others and generally shows little respect to other players or their interests when in conflict with his own.

He works for a lack of transparency on issues and affords him self the lack of accountability in his position.

And somehow CCP sees it as fitting to retain this individual as an "ambassador" for the game.

Other than having an alliance capable of getting the votes, there are really no admirable qualities. His continual self acclaimed ego confusing "manipulation" with real leadership qualities is just hilarious in my view and shows a lack of understanding towards real social empowerment.

As such to some extent I do wonder why CCP affords to put up with this influence, as for me it reflects badly on them that they entertain some of the stupid behavoural aspects when representing EvE as a council member.

I have also thought that it might be due to the fact that CCP don't want the drama that could be engulfed on the community if they did take steps to correct this influence. Interestingly I'm unsure what the outcome would be from that, and to some extent I would suspect the income from Goons is still very relevant to them. Should CCP take the view to remove him I would not see it as a dismissal of "freedom of expression" as the Mittani gives no respect to the meaning of this unless it coincides with his own stance. So personally if a ceratin portion of the community is offending the game principles then It might be more healthy in the long run to remove it.

To be honest if the head of the Goons were to be "lanced" like a boil from the face of EvE politics I would imagine there might be uproar for a short term, but I'd imagine a number of the Goons and affliates would still continue to play and press for a similar candidate to further the stupidity. So ultimatley it would be ineffective if the behavoural aspects are not corrected. As a result it might be be a case of "better the devil you know" and trying to accomodate.

There is of course one useful way to remove unwanted interests from the Council. Encourage voting in alternative candidacies and try to remove apathy and ignorance. How you would in any way do this within the Goon community is a different matter. But I think if you want to achieve something you have to work towards it in a number of different platforms. And simply don't give up due to intolerance or predjudice.

And somehow CCP sees it as fitting to retain this individual as an "ambassador" for the game.

What now.

I always thought our role was to be an elected voice of the players to CCP. Thus the whole, you know, voting thing.

There is of course one useful way to remove unwanted interests from the Council. Encourage voting in alternative candidacies and try to remove apathy and ignorance. How you would in any way do this within the Goon community is a different matter. But I think if you want to achieve something you have to work towards it in a number of different platforms. And simply don't give up due to intolerance or predjudice.

Manipulate post content much?