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New dev blog: Fixing some things and moving forward

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Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#261 - 2011-09-20 06:44:09 UTC
While I like the idea they are bringing ship spinning back, I really like the idea of looking at my ship with the current system. However, as you mentioned, the amount of power required to render such awesome graphics, is real stressful on computer. Also it makes it much more time consuming to dock, buy/sell, change fittings, etc, than it did before.

Could we get the current system, but with better performance? It seems you folks put so much time into this system, only to give players an option, which to me, seems like a waste.

Is this a fix or patch, or is this the content publish?

I was hoping for more game content updates.

I was hoping to see a Dev blog stating you will NOT be removing ABC's from WH space as the whole concept is asinine.
Dorn Val
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#262 - 2011-09-20 06:54:59 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I'm spinning, right round, round... how was that song again?


"You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round round round" :)

Thanks CCP!!!

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Kile Kitmoore
#263 - 2011-09-20 07:00:12 UTC
Sounds promising but don't you think after all this back and forth with you we could get a when this will happen?

Oh, and for the love of God and all that's holy could you please give a bit of thought behind dock/undock status. Maybe something along the lines of each pilots dock/undock status is set individually. This would allow customers with multi-accounts to have some of their pilots load CQ and others to load hanger view only. In other words, if pilot ABC logs out and then I login pilot XYZ your game doesn't carry over the dock/undock state from ABC and apply it to XYZ.

All ideas in a company have their champions or advocates, even the bad ones. If your truly trying to change things it may be time to take a hard look where some of these less then popular ideas originate from and start holding people in your organization accountable. Lastly, print a large poster of the "Door", frame it and hang it up as a reminder of the last several months!

Thanks to CSM, protesters, forum warriors, bloggers and people who actually canceled an account or stopped logging in. CCP needed a wake-up call and hopefully your efforts are going to start paying off with some tangible results. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Xerxes Ceasar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#264 - 2011-09-20 07:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Xerxes Ceasar
It turned out that the new turret models, while heavily detailed and cool, didn‘t lend themselves well to being drawn in an area just a few pixels wide and tall. Usability suffered. It was hard to distinguish between turret types. As a result, we will be reverting the change so that turret icons use the original custom drawn icons, rather than 3d renders of the turrets themselves.

Would be neat if you could put some good icon illustrators to work there and make new icons that look better. The old ones are good but does not resemble the new turrets. Making excellent UI and icons is a difficult task and if one takes short cuts by using rendered models you get this result.
Menenda Tararena
Project XIII
#265 - 2011-09-20 07:02:28 UTC
Bring Stabity wrote:
Taking something away then giving it back is a really ****** way of getting peoples approval.

Yes. But its the people in this thread that are being silly little sheeps now. Torfi named the blog "Fixing some things and moving forward". Meaning that it is just a blog about some long needed obvious fixes that they honestly should have fixed a long time ago or preferably never broken. I am guessing he was honest when he said he dident expect such a positive feedback because as you said, they are merely fixing things they shouldnt have broken in the first place.

You can go back and check out the blog they released after the Jita riots. The blog dident say anything, but still lots of people were doing the happydance and "resubscribed".

Its silly, but people are easy to lead.

Nonnori Ikkala
Love for You
#266 - 2011-09-20 07:03:55 UTC
I like a readable font! But let's make sure not only that 0 and O are distinct, but 6 and G as well. That's confusing now, which is fairly egregious.

On the same topic, why does the game sometimes force all caps? In the names for saved overview settings, and for the ship name in the fittings panel, specifically. As far as I can tell it sacrifices useability and customization for additional looking-ugly.
Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#267 - 2011-09-20 07:32:12 UTC
Dorn Val wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I'm spinning, right round, round... how was that song again?


"You spin me right round baby right round, like a rifter baby right round round round" :)

Thanks CCP!!!

Lamthara Lachesis
Emporio Amarr
#268 - 2011-09-20 07:37:14 UTC
uhm... i guess the forum ate my post. let me rewrite it

I'm happy the spinning - ship - hangar is coming back not because it's great but because it is much more usable than the captain quarter. Actually it had to be done since the beginning because the CQ doesn't add anything in term of gameplay and so people just dock to change ship / change fitting and the old hangar was better if someone wanted to do this.

Kudos to ccp that has been able to understand that (it was hard but you did it at last ^^ )

The font is also nice but will we be able to change the colour too or only the size like today?
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#269 - 2011-09-20 07:37:51 UTC
Yay !!! Bear
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#270 - 2011-09-20 07:44:54 UTC
CCP Zulu wrote:
Confirming new font.

That font looks suspiciously like the unused eveneue font that has been sitting in the eve stuff files for oh... years now? :P

Chiral's Angels
#271 - 2011-09-20 07:49:25 UTC
Yay ! Hopefully now I'll look a bit less like a zombie with rouge when coming through the doorway from the ship balcony.
blackbox ops
#272 - 2011-09-20 08:08:58 UTC
best patch in 4 years?
am i reading all this correctly?

now if only you could give us the old item-stacking functionality back, i'd really love you again Cool
Wyvern Eden
Eden's Spaceship Enterprises
#273 - 2011-09-20 08:13:29 UTC
This is VERY good news. Looking forward to the update!!
The Snowman
Gallente Federation
#274 - 2011-09-20 08:28:04 UTC

Now, the new icons are indeed utter shite, but the old ones... ARE old, could we get some new ones that are styled after the original icons but more resemble the new models?
Dennie Fleetfoot
DUST University
#275 - 2011-09-20 08:34:26 UTC
I'll be happy if the new font can go beyond 13 point expanded i.e. be bigger..

My gaming PC is hooked to my home cinema and the ONLY game I can't play at 1080p is EVE because the font is so small at that resolution, I would have to be about 2 feet away from the screen and burn out my retina's.

CEO Dust University

CPM 1&2 Member

Red Viking Conglomerate
#276 - 2011-09-20 08:39:40 UTC
Looking forward to ship spinning! Also, I hope this will allow my laptop (shader model too low) to run EVE again. If not, let me try to run it anyway!
Draahk Chimera
#277 - 2011-09-20 08:51:11 UTC
SerialTurd wrote:
So let me see if I get this right.

Putting back old icons for turrets - old stuff
Putting back station spinning - old stuff
Add a caldari captains quarters - new stuff for walking in station
Adding a new cyno effect - new stuff

So really we are only getting 1 new thing and it's not even that big a thing. We ever going to hear something about 0.0 changes or super cap changes or anything in space game changing changes?!?!

More space stuff, less station stuff.

Hey, we are still on Incarna expansion. This is just a patch. Zero-Zero is for next expansion this winter. I hope they call it EVE Online - Chimera! They already named a carrier after me after all.

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#278 - 2011-09-20 08:58:05 UTC
Thank you for bringing back hangar functionality and turret icons Big smile
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#279 - 2011-09-20 09:03:40 UTC
Sometimes its the little things.

The return of Spinning - while its not totally about the spinning, the fact that you are giving us back a new 'old' hangar with a disembark button makes me happy.

The Icons - you summed it up in two words "Usability suffered". Thank you for listening to the community.

These two simple things have made me think that you guys are actually turning a corner and actually listening to the wants of the community, and for that I thank you!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Jose Black
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#280 - 2011-09-20 09:25:55 UTC
Wait what?

I begin feeling they're coming back to their senses. Oh how good that feels!