Science & Industry

far more runs, but far higher material costs.

At Jita prices, a Sabre would be 5 mil more expensive to make at ME -6 than ME -4

Totally destroys the profit margin.

I think, as well, you'd need to throw in a max run bpc, rather than a single run bpc. but don't quote me on that.

You have to be careful with decryptors. One issue is that you would have to run invention jobs on max run bpc's even for ships when the decryptor modifies runs. Those can take a while to create, already increasing your invention costs before you even start clicking. You must also weight the risks and benefits, and do it on paper. ME -6 results in significantly more expensive construction.

If you have any tools that you use to calculate production costs, play with the numbers. Personally, I've found decryptors to not be useful in many cases. There are some items where they do provide significant benefits especially coupled with meta items, in particular when the meta is very cheap considering the production cost. I think that the decryptor type you described isn't very popular at all. Obviously I don't know how most other people manage their T2 production since I can't look over their shoulder, but the market seems to indicate so based on the cost of these decryptors (don't know what the drop ratio is like compared to other types, but from personal exploration ventures they aren't nearly frequent enough drops to account for the market value). This is also my gut feeling based on its stats. Can't think of a case where it would provide significant benefit to merit usage, but don't want to bother crunching numbers right now, sorry.

So, play with numbers, figure out if the drawbacks and the benefits are worth it, etc. Spreadsheets are bad at lying

ftfy

It has been a while since I did ship invention and production, but it used to be that one (and only one) of the decryptors became borderline profitable for ships that cost more than ~120 mil. I am sure the numbers have fluctuated since then, but in general, mods should never use decryptors and only expensive ships really benefit from decryptors (jump freighter, as an extreme example).

To the OP, I suggest playing around in eve IPH to see what results you get with different options. Link in my sig.

The corollary to that rule is: Diversify, diversify, diversify

I wasted a whole load of time and money on invention, what a let down.
I hope that other aspects of Eve are more interesting and rewarding.

Indeed, to get a Max Run T2 BPC, one must use a FULL RUN T1 BPC.

Use the Decryptors that increase ME, not runs. You will otherwise lose tons of money and waste your time.

Don't bother with Decryptors on Mods, unless they are really expensive mods.

Personally, I gave up months ago. Impossible to compete with both the cost of components made from Moon Goo, and the existence of T2 BPO's which you CANNOT compete with.

5 Mill profit on a 98,000,000 troublesome Crane is just not worth it after awhile............Good Luck.

That's a LOT of work actually and tying up a slot for less than 5 Million a day. And they say MINING is bad ISK/hr ?????

And bad waste of time FINDING these particular items as well. Unless one's idea of a GREAT time is Spreadsheets in Space.

It's just NOT worth it. One big yawn, that is manufacturing for sure.

So total noob questions here. Let's say I try to invent a T2 ship and use the max run decryptor on it. The T1 BPC needs at least 10 runs on it? Or does it need to be a max runs one?

Also, can the T2 BPC have ME research done on it? (Ignore how long that takes for a bit.)