EVE General Discussion

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Must be hard to type with one hand on the keyboard and the other furiously pulling your pud. Try naked women. It's a little less creepy.

Mr Epeen

That would require skill and effort beyond 'arrive at belt, target ship, fire, die, board next ship, repeat'.
Scan down missioner, determine tank, gank, shut off stream of abuse from a mission runner who wasn't a bot, repeat until you find someone that IS a bot.

I LOVE THE GANKING BOT IDEA!!!

Wow Tip, that's a whole lot of venomous bile from you. Usually you seem to have your head on straighter that this. Guess that thesis is taking an emotional toll on you.

But it really does illustrate a good point about this community these days. An us versus them mentality, measuring a person's based on their activities, delegating others to an eventual fate of working in a camp somewhere. Well, at least not in the literal sense, but there is definitely a overblown sense of superiority at work here.

I am happy that hisec ganking can occur, its fitting in the whole mythos of New Eden being a violent and unstable place. But I also think that people are allowing themselves to be brainwashed as well. I know that its in fashion to go along with the crowd, hoping to reap some approval from what one considers their betters. It's sycophantic behavior though, and that really does saddened me. It signals, to me, the loss of independent thought, creativity, and diversity...all once cornerstones of this game.

I'm pretty much to the point that every group can sod off. For me, its not the perpetual illusions created by people, or the vast conspiracy theories (among the biggest is that hisec is safe) or who is botting and who isn't and who is better than who. I honestly just don't really care anymore. All that really matters to me is the game, which is more than I can say for some who play it. I know that there will come a time when the game gets broken, whether through player action, or the lack of maintenance and refusal to enforce the rules by the makers of the game. It is inevitable. It will happen. And that will be a pretty sad day for those who can see it when it comes.

do another one of your high sec tuff guy role play posts

get off it already. people who are into industry are not worthless people. they enjoy harvesting resources and building stuff just like in any other game, except in EVE, it's unappreciated by the very same people who buy your products. THEN some try to use them to destroy you and make your game a little more difficult while you are trying to support the in game economy.

And what is your driver in the game? do you survive and play with NO ISK? how do YOU fund your ship and fit purchases? donations? Mining is just another way to make money in this game. it is not the "crafters" fault that EVE is so easily botable AND mining is not the only easy isk faucet. Ratting is botable and incursions in a large well setup gang requires not a whole lot of your attention and the payouts are much better. There are lots of ways to make easy isk and easier ways to make AFK ISK. If easy isk is your argument, then go ahead and remove research agents, planetary interaction and moon mining.....

"Money is the only thing that drives a miner, easy afk money" this is your opinion. so would you advocate the removal of R&D agents? PI? Moon mining? Incursions? RATS? Missions? Anything that doesnt require 100% of your attention to play?

give me an f'n break lol

my experience in mining has been somewhat enjoyable but it was only after i was running 3 hulks and an orca on one PC through 4 monitors that it actually became a bit more entertaining. reason being is that roids deplete much quicker and keeping the lasers going is much more of an attention keeper.

I don't support the use of bots but here we are again where people trash talk others because they enjoy an aspect of the game that YOU do not.

TL;DR? get over it, and yourself

lol i find it ironic that you are calling me a pubbie and telling me to go out to Null where I do play (showing you don't know squat about me just because i occasionally like to mine) when YOU are in a huge nullsec alliance with SOV hanging out in high sec, probably more than I do infact. just because you are in Goons doesn't make you leet bud. i actually fly in YOUR SPACE idiot lmao

Ok, now you have been mixing up my points that were quoted by Tippia with his points, that were meant to refute mine.

As far as my points are concerned:

- I am an industrialist myself, I do invention, manufacturing and trading, and yes, I like the concept of economic warfare and completely dominating and cornering a specific market. Good stuff.

- Remove R/D Agents for all I care. I do inventions a lot, and there is no possible way to create all those datacores myself, so I am used to buying them of the markets already.

- I just recently met what I would call "hardcore miners". A whole bunch of them, people that I have never encountered before in Eve. People that multibox with 9 accounts, mining veldspar in highsec while being afk and playing Skyrim or WoW. This sounds like a cliche, but they exist. I have nothing personal against those guys, they are well mannered and polite people.
But in my understanding they do not play the game (Eve, I am talking about Eve) . Playing Skyrim or WoW is NOT playing Eve online. They do not deserve to be protected from ganks. You want to achieve something in a game? Then play it.
But expecting to be good in a game that you do not actively play is just all kinds of wrong.

This appears to be working out extremely well for you, pubbie.

Yeah, no.

It illustrates that anyone who would rather turn to botting than learn how to play the game is an idiot and a piece of scum and the more of them gets bullied into leaving the game and then accidentally falling down a manhole, the better. It has nothing to do with activities — it has to do with them being a bunch of cheating assholes.

Miners are not a problem. Miners who think they should be protected for absolutely no reason are something of a problem (especially if what they need to be protected against is themselves). Miners who use bots are a huge issue. Don't confuse the three.

How about you learn to read instead? When you do, you'll notice that no-one said people who are into industry is worthless. In fact, people who are into industry are quite valuable.

People who refuse to adapt to the game they've chosen to play; people who whine about everyone and everything but themselves and the errors they make, when it's those own errors who get them killed; people who refuse to learn even the most obvious and simple lesson; people who use bots — those are the ones who are worthless for the simple reason that they add exactly zero worth to the game. In fact, they do quite the opposite: they quite often rob the game of the value it would have without their worthless presence.

No it's not. Learn to read.

Yes well, guess what. Your failure to read, and the response you've written as a result of this failure, actually mean that you do. It might not have been your intent, but that's what happened.

TL;DR? Learn to read.