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Omen Buff
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-02-13 23:40:29 UTC
Navy Omens are AMAZING. Even with so-so skills you can put out a lot of damage with just lasers alone.

Omens are ok, they could be better but I feel comfortable in them.

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mecubed
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-02-14 01:52:56 UTC
The omen is junk, plain and simple. The navy omen is great though. The only t1 cruisers that dont need a buff is minnie.
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
#23 - 2012-02-14 22:07:27 UTC  |  Edited by: The Djego
Kid Chaos wrote:
As a noob who is interested in Amarr ships and laser platforms in general, I was very disappointed to learn that everyone has a very low opinion of the Omen.

My understanding is that it is rarely utilized because it has fitting issues that can really only be overcome by dedicating a couple of low slots to CPU and PG upgrades. Because of this there really isn't a laser bombardment ship prior to the Harbinger, which is a little bulky for my tastes. The Zealot and Navy Issue Omen, while serviceable, are not really a replacement for an affordable T1 Cruiser.

I guess my real question is, if 90% of the community recognizes that the ship is under powered compared to ships like the Rupture, Thorax, or Vexor (the percentage of players that care is much lower), then why hasn't there been a buff to the ship (even a minor one) to make it a viable option?

Is increasing the CPU / PG enough to make the Omen a decent ship simply a much more difficult task for CCP then I think it is, or is there just too little interest on the part of the community to even bother with it? Is there some other reason that buffing the ship's fitting capabilities would be bad for the game that I'm overlooking?

Your input is appreciated.


You can fit the Omen with perfect fitting skills, however even then it is quite short on PG and CPU(plus speed and capacitor for this matter). It isn't a ship that you can fly effectively on a new char, it is even lacking if you have all the skills for it.

The discussion about the Omen was 4 years ago during the Amarr buff. The 5. turret on both Omen and Zealot are in fact the result of it. It worked flawless on the Zealot with lots of fitting space, it was just pointless on the Omen that barely could mount 4 turrets + tank and mwd.

Also yes CCP does have a long standing history of ignoring issues, player feedback or leaving stuff in a broken state for years.


A pvp Omen looks like this, if you want to do pve with it, swap the 800mm with a small complex rep(5m), the mwd with a AB and the cap booster/point with a web or tracking computer and a cap recharger.

[Omen, New Setup 1]
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Heat Sink II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 150
Faint Warp Disruptor I

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x3

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Degnar Oskold
Moira.
#24 - 2012-02-15 15:44:05 UTC
Mike712 wrote:

If you could manage this with a nano instead of the co-proc it would actually be pretty decent. 329 DPS @ 23km isn't half bad plus with a nano it would go 1600m/s+


Nano Omen drops 10% of DPS and 3 km of range only, and downgrades to best-named shield extender. According to pyfa, 303 dps at 20.3 km, 1775 km/s at all skills V

[Omen, Nano Omen]

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Type-D Power Core Modification: Diagnostic System
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
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