My EVE

T2 ganglinks, on a maxed Loki, with a mindlink. 6.5km/s
Quafe Zero makes it >6.8km/s

Weird..
I have that loaded in EFT
389m/s before mwd
5210 m/s with heated mwd

Full HG Snake
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link.
Loki T2 links + mindlink

Setup is 1 nano in lows

Even had a friend double check it

Episode 6 was terrible.

Garmon can have a lot of knowledge, but listening to him felt felt like listening to the sound of fingernails scraping chalkboard.
Is he drunk? High? Autistic?

You knew it was stupid because Kil2 tried to translate, but even he could only understand half of it.
Then at 80% you spend ~10 minutes reiterating same sentence without coming to any type of a conclusion (or even possibly agreeing on a meaning of it).

sad face.

Garmon didnt ruin the final at AT. It was already over and won. that was just his victory lap. People just didnt know that the great fight that they watched before that was actually the final

If you listened to episode 6, you heard me mention a possible change to the format for next show, and what you have said is basically the exact change. Someone suggested this to me via eve mail and I like it a lot. I don't feel like we have room to add an entire section so I think for a few shows we will maybe try this instead of the mod section we've been doing in the middle and see how people like it.

Thanks for the suggestion =)

I only recently found this podcast and I must say its a pure treasure chest of information. Thank you both for doing this, its really useful information and very nice to listen to.

I use warriors more out of some misguided sense of e-honor, but yeah I pretty much agree with you. The primary use of that drone space is to take care of frigs/dictors, and while warriors will give you a consistent but slow remedy, ec-300s will give you inconsistent quick-fixes. I actually really just don't like using the mechanic. If drones were just a kind of nice add-on for the ship like on a drake, I see the value. But when drones can be really decisive as on the talos, I like to know that I have a consistent tool at my disposal, not a tool that will just fail to work some of the time.

Also before you rate t3 links above ecm on the game-breaking scale, we can observe that falcon alts are still used a lot more frequently - I find it's uncommon to run into gangs with t3 outside major pvp hubs. Whether this is a matter of the market still catching up (falcon alts have been around a lot longer) or whether ecm is still the superior alt I can't say, but I think falcons are the better game-breaker.

While I don't love where links are at, I do think what you say here is very important. People talk about links like its some risk free solution to pvp. In reality it takes a lot of investment. The alt takes a lot of time or quite a bit of isk (5-10b?) to aquire, and then you are facing 500-800mil in losses every time you mess up and lose one. I don't think cost is ever a great metric to use for talking about balance, but it does play a part.

I definitely misused the word "game-breaking" here and came off looking like a whiny bitter vet, lol. I don't really have anything against people using links, or falcons or even ECM drones for that matter. The game is still tons of fun for me, and having those kinds of odds against you makes coming out on top so much more rewarding.

That said, I do think those are some mechanics that really need some looking at, because I think they're not being used in a way that was originally intended - eve players are too good at exploiting the rules :D But they're both kind of boring mechanics, especially ECM. And I think it's something that's especially damaging to newer pilots.

Keep it up man!