Market Discussions

can there really be many trillionaires out there.

i bet if u consider assets then maybe but actual cold hard isk in wallet over 1 trillion. I would love to see that. the only person i have ever heard who had isk like that, was that **** that tried but failed first time to create black noise. puppetmaster or something like that.

5 billion is rich?
I don't feel rich.

I'll get back to you when I break a trillion.

Not rich, but the few times I make a big sale, I use the extra cash to try riskier ventures or invest some in startups.

Getting rich ruined part of the game for me.

Because pvp losses weren't really losses anymore, I lost my adrenaline rush that I had when taking risks with my hard-earned isks. I became more and more detached from Eve.

Because I didn't have an use anymore for the isks I earned, I played less, which aggravated the first issue.

Now this is something I don't understand. But it's probably just a difference in the way I think about things and the way you think about things, or a difference in the way we measure success and failure.

If I was to name one thing that hasn't changed as a result of becoming wealthy, it's the thrill and enjoyment of PvP. It's still my absolute favourite part of EVE and the thing that most contributes to my enjoyment of the game.

Before I was wealthy, I didn't fly what I couldn't afford to lose. No change there.

Before I was wealthy, I wanted to win fights, not lose them. No change there.

Before I was wealthy, I wanted my enemy to die, not me or my fleetmates. No change there.

Before I was wealthy, I wanted my killboard to look good. I wanted good kills, I didn't want embarrassing losses. I wanted my efficiency high. I wanted to clock up a few hundred kills a month. I wanted a good rank. No changes there.

Before I was wealthy, I got my thrills from the anticipation and subsequent execution of the fight followed by smugging over killmails and battlereports. No change there.

The only differences the isk has made to me is the cost and variety of ships I can fly and the speed with which I can reship. Both of which have increased my enjoyment, not reduced it.

Also, I still fly pretty cheap compared to many people I fly with. I just fit for the job and no more.


Sounds like a narrow play style biting you.

Holy **** this thread. I felt rich when I managed to hit 500mil the other day, and now apparently 5bil is still poor? Bah.

Once you hit 2 billion or so, your in a position to get real rich real fast.

My first 1 billion took rather long time to accumulate as I didnt really put alot of thought into it, nor did I understand the game.
I was a cheap bastard and grinded "solo" like a fool.
Loosing my first Prophecy back in 2006 was "OMG OMG!", while now I can loose dreads/carriers and it doesnt
really bother me unless it happened in a embarrasing way. Loosing stuff in a good fight is fine.

After a while doing that I broke 1 billion and found that you can make wealth while improving the game for others.
So I started singlehandedly making trade hubs in low+null sec, and what I found was that people appriciated it and
looking at dotlan you could see the activity in the area exploded after a month of initial investment.
At the peek of this I was making 1-2 billion a day profit. I actually got several mails from random people thanking me
for making a Jita light in the area etc etc. Its easy to be nice when you make billions on it
Kept doing this until I hit 150b in wallet, bought supercapitals just cause I could.
That said, even having Titan+supercarrier, flying around in guardian/scimitars are much more fun. The supercapitals
just adds to the convinience factor.

Additionally I can be generous with ingame friends. Someone need a ship and I got it in hangar? Ill lend it out and
not think twice about them loosing it or not.

About 6 months ago I did the trade hub/regional development again. Invested 16billions into 1 system just as an expiriment.
First 3 weeks it was kinda slow, then it started to pick up and 5 weeks in I had tons of transactions,
activity in the surrounding area etc.

I guess what Im trying to say, as Bad Bobby have been, being filthy rich opens up more options in the game, and
the wealth means I need to put less effort into it in 2012 as compared to back in my 2006 prophecy days.

The only ones who can get away with zero re-investment and true hoarding are the mission, incursion, and anom farmers who are simply generating isk out of thin air (bounties) and have no obligation to put any of it into goods or services to keep going. Of course this is only 100% air-tight if they use a ship with nothing but drones/lasers with t1 crystals, but still, the point remains. Everyone else is naturally re-investing and allowing their isk to circulate.

Well I would class myself as super-f***ing-uber rich. I'm up to nearly 50Billion and all i fly are rifters and tristans :) cheap losses FTW

When I wanted something I got it instead of thinking ooh that would be fun, thats about it.