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PI Scan Resulting

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Leitharos Rosselem
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-02-15 00:09:03 UTC
Anyone else noticing that scan results somehow got worse?

I first noticed this on a single Lava planet which seemed to keep the skin "appearance" which made seeing scan results nearly impossible except for resource with half or more white bar strength. Meanwhile, on other Lava planets, the skin / overlay disappeared and I was able to see results much easier even at at almost minimum setting. True, that pure white "hot spots" weren't there, but you could still differentiate shades of green and blue.

Lately however, all planets seem impossible to read at the minimum scan setting and all lava planets keep their skin. In other words, most of the planet keeps the skin overlay and most of the time, I see almost no blue or green at all.

In rare cases, II get some red and even more rarely, I see some white hot spot when resource is about half strength (white bar).

The only thing that has changed is that I actually invested in some scan training which I now regret because I think it started to alter my results (instead of all blue / green with some shades of red and sometime white... now nada most of the time)

Yes, I know that rare materials (with only 1/5 th white bar) should be hard to detect a warm spot... but I was always able to see relativity... shades of blue... green.

Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong? is there a setting I played with without knowing? Of my 14 planets (on three toons), I have only 3 that I can actually see much of.
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#2 - 2012-02-15 00:29:36 UTC
I think it work as intended. It just means that before the skill upgrade you saw too much materials on planets that actually shouldn't be there. Now your sensing is more perfect and you see how depleted the planet rly is.

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Leitharos Rosselem
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-02-15 01:00:10 UTC
Thanks. It's what I thought.

Also, realized that I had turned up video settings to high levels on this monitor. See, I was logging in on only one account using this CPU and high end graphics card on this monitor so have settings up high.

Realized that if I logged in using my older machine (lower settings on) then I got lower resolution (monitor) but less interference which meant clearer observations of the green/blue.

How's that for rewarding.

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#4 - 2012-02-15 02:02:50 UTC
I have seen this happen as well.i will even have a decent yield on the existing heads but no graphics for the scan at all. it usually fixes it self at down time.
It has only ever happened for me on lava planets. even switching to a resource I know has high yield on the planet i get no survey data.
This may be intended as the result of a failed scan, but it seems odd to me.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#5 - 2012-02-15 06:02:21 UTC
Leitharos Rosselem wrote:
Anyone else noticing that scan results somehow got worse?


Lately however



Interesting statement, I leave these two phrases in the quotiation as this is the 2nd post regarding unusaully large diffrence in 'Scan Ability'

Previous post reported 50% reductions @ 4/4 skills , no satifitactory explanation was forth coming for the size of this diffrence, yet the usual ' it's the skills ' advice was advocated (by me also)

This post now reports significant loss in scan resolution basically, which is an unthought of possible explanation of previous posters problems, should you abitlity to scan tank this may produce an effect described ie. greater variance between projected and actual (your projected would be acting on this 'possible' scan failure)

I'd advice bug report and any other procedures in place in the community to inform staff of possible 'not working as intended'

Anyone able to pin down this 'effect' date wise, ie does it co inside with a particular patch.

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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#6 - 2012-02-15 18:20:51 UTC
I have noticed it periodically over the last few weeks.

Seems to be completely random. But I will start keeping track if it happens again.

The first time it happened was when I was resetting extraction cycles while in a different region.(only a few jumps away but still another region) I ignored it as I thought it might have been because I was out of range of the planet.

But I later experienced it while docked at a station in the same system as the planet and again in orbit around the planet I was surveying.

I move the slider all the way to the left but nothing shows up on scan. It would seem the planet is dry but my heads are still showing decent yield and still have decent yield after installing the job.

The next day same planet the scan works fine.

I have not tried clearing the cash to see it that solves the issue. But it seems to rectify after down time.
Nyrak
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-15 19:45:51 UTC
While I have not studied this, I have casually noticed that it seems the color levels have "dropped" a level in raw materials. That is, what appears as white seems to offer red level numbers; red equals yellow numbers; yellow equals green numbers; green equals blue numbers; and blue numbers are quite dead. Lately, I have been pretty busy in real life with work, so I've been quickly leaving the heads in place and just restart the extracting. So while I do expect the numbers to get worse and worse over time, after reading this thread, I did notice that I have not been seeing any shades of blues or greens while retaining the same poor results even though neither my skills nor the slider bar have been altered. Even my originally white hot spot down to dark red seems to offer sub-par numbers as if the color to number ratio is off.

Oh Bugsy, if you are going to "clear the cash" (instead of cache), then I will gladly take some of that cleared cash!
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#8 - 2012-02-15 21:27:05 UTC
Went into game to try and check my scanning but with nothing really to compare it to (except my failing memory) it difficult to tell if there was a change.

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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#9 - 2012-02-16 14:47:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
the problem I am noticing is that on very rare occasions I get nothing on scan.

Even with the slider all the way to the left there is not even any blue/green anywhere on the planet.

After a server reset I can get up to yellow and red on the same planet.

My yield does not fluctuate much which is why I believe it is not simply a depletion issue with new resources spawning at down time. If that was the case then installing a extraction program after the empty survey should result in a significant drop in yield but my yield stays pretty much the same as when I installed on the yellow/red the previous day. When this happens I just install the program without moving the heads as I do not know where to move them too.

This has to either be a display bug, or there is a chance of getting a failed scan resulting in no reading regardless of skill level.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-02-16 17:14:27 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
This has to either be a display bug, or there is a chance of getting a failed scan resulting in no reading regardless of skill level.


Very likely this - I've run into a couple of display bugs within PI but I can never reproduce them so as to report them. It's as if the planetary interface didn't completely load and some aspects of it are just absent.