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Malak Almawt Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 0	#1 - 2012-02-14 21:33:11 UTC \| Edited by: Malak Almawt As in title need a a sleipnir or absolution fit to complement the nighthawk for lvl 4 missions

vorneus

Hub2

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#2 - 2012-02-14 21:42:02 UTC

Malak Almawt wrote:

As in title need a a sleipnir or absolution fit to complement the nighthawk for lvl 4 missions

I know this is Ships & Modules, but.. have you no imagination?

In fact, you don't even need imagination. Just an ounce of creativity or common sense.

Fit lasers (pulses for short and mid-range, beams for long). Fit armour tank. Once you've done that in EFT you'll pretty much have a complete fit. Slap a propulsion mod on there and you're good to go.

-Ed

This one time, I like, totally did some stuff.


Malak Almawt Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 0	#3 - 2012-02-14 21:47:31 UTC \| Edited by: Malak Almawt of course I have a imagination I just wanted a different view to compare it to, don't draw conclusions it was just a question I asked. Don't understand why you can never just get a answer here only ****.

Tenth Plague of Egypt 87
Mike712 Tenth Plague of Egypt Likes received: 87	#4 - 2012-02-14 22:03:02 UTC Sleipnir is much easier and cheaper to tank sufficiently for level 4s, it's mobility somewhat makes up for the stunted range of medium turrets. Abso is plain useless for level 4 missions. Hope that answered your question. Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team

mxzf

Shovel Bros

Likes received: 2,175

#5 - 2012-02-14 22:11:37 UTC

For the Sleipner, use a shield booster and EMP ammo. For the Absolution, fit an armor tank and lasers.

Now, if you would like more detailed fitting advice, please post what you have managed to EFT so far so that you can receive constructive criticism on it or people can post alternatives. If you don't care about the fit enough to try tossing together a first draft, we don't either.

Viziam Amarr Empire 21
river Zateki Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 21	#6 - 2012-02-14 22:20:26 UTC no need to be so rude to this guy. Keep in mind barrage will be useless verse sansha. But overall sliepnirs a better ship so train for that. Also has better EM/therm resists than default armor.


Malak Almawt Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 0	#7 - 2012-02-14 22:25:20 UTC \| Edited by: Malak Almawt was thinking about 3x gyro t2 2x tracking enhancer t2 cn navy xl booster 2 mission specific hardeners mwd or ab ? or just dual prop or is that just silly for lvl 4? shield boost amp t2 or ab for dual prop 7 425mm t2 offline salvager for heat sink for overloading? medium armbit extension t1 x2

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

Likes received: 3,040

#8 - 2012-02-14 22:27:34 UTC | Edited by: Zhilia Mann

As per above, the Sleipnir wins. Just watch for neuts if you're up against Blood Raiders. Sansha pose little to no problems for a decent Sleipnir fit.

(Standard caveat: a Machariel is for all intents and purposes a Sleipnir on steroids and should be considered a superior alternative. A Vargur is a decent option due to high native EM/Therm resists. A Tach Nightmare eats EM/Therm rats. But if you have your heart set on a CS, the Sleipnir wins.)

Edit: as for a fit, I've used this and it works:

[Sleipnir, mishin]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination X-Large Shield Booster
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Small Tractor Beam II

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I


Malak Almawt Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 0	#9 - 2012-02-14 22:31:39 UTC well I don't have any large turret skills atm only medium and small so mach or vargur is out of the question. Training for large hybrids first anyhow.


Malak Almawt Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 0	#10 - 2012-02-14 22:33:14 UTC Zhilia is a ab enough cant you use mwd now in missions ?


Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions Likes received: 3,040	#11 - 2012-02-14 23:02:41 UTC Yeah, you could fit a MWD. I like the comfort of speed/sig tanking on the Sleip though. Honestly the thing has a fairly weak capacitor to start with. Add in an XL booster and a MWD and it starts to look thin. You could probably get away with dual propping with a large booster but I haven't tried it.

Arazel Chainfire

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 242

#12 - 2012-02-15 04:09:22 UTC

Consider trying it with artillery. I used to run C3 sites with a Pith C-type medium shield booster, slepnir w/ 7 720's, and in between leaving the WH and heading off to do other stuff I ran some lvl 4's with it. Worked just fine even with the WH fit, much less actually fitting for specific missions.

Fit was:
[Sleipnir, C3 WH arty med booster]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Power Diagnostic System II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Auto Targeting System II

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Ionic Field Projector I

Warrior II x5

Fit does 607 gun dps with a 15+33km range, though there isn't really any good medium range EM/Therm ammo. Since you're using it for just missions, you can swap the fit around some to get an AB on it, swap the drones around for whatever drones of choice you want, etc. But its a decent starting ground to work from. I also much prefered hammering out artillery... not only is there less ammo usage, but you're not loosing tons of dps to falloff/chasing everything like you are with autocannons.

-Arazel

Criterion. Minmatar Fleet Alliance 72
Jesus Rambo Criterion. Minmatar Fleet Alliance Likes received: 72	#13 - 2012-02-15 05:53:56 UTC Arazel Chainfire wrote: amazing fits Out of curiosity, I checked to see how this fit scales up with a better SB and specific resists ...yeah I'm gonna go change my pants now

Mike712

Tenth Plague of Egypt

Likes received: 87

#14 - 2012-02-15 08:31:21 UTC

Jesus Rambo wrote:

Arazel Chainfire wrote:

amazing fits

Out of curiosity, I checked to see how this fit scales up with a better SB and specific resists

...yeah I'm gonna go change my pants now

Arazel Chainfire's setup with the pithum C-type med booster is great for wormholes, however I would go with a slightly more ganky variation on that setup for level 4s.

[Sleipnir, Lv4 Arty Sleip]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Domination 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Heat Dissipation Field II
Photon Scattering Field II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Hobgoblin II x5

Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team

Danny John-Peter

Blue Canary

Watch This

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#15 - 2012-02-15 09:33:23 UTC | Edited by: Danny John-Peter

******* Forums ate my post.

[Sleipnir, Sleip]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Gist C-Type Photon Scattering Field
Gist C-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
Salvager I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x3

Use this, or a less tanky variation for lvl4s (This is for ratting in plexes)

500+ DPS with arty and 4000+ alpha is just **** face, go buy one fit it along the lines of most of the fits in here, which are all good, it looks like a train, hits like several, it wins.

ED - Switch those Rigs out for two T2 Resist rigs for an even better tank, with 7+ mins cap life too :D

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