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20 Bil liquidity Bond - 10% return
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Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#1 - 2012-02-04 02:34:31 UTC
Hello,

I am going to keep this very simple.

As some of you might know, I produce SCs (all 4 races).

I generate 5,5 SCs per month as an average over the time since production started and various expansions happened.

I am in need of more liquidity for some of this month production as an order for some minerals fell short and in order to cover my needs I had to stretch deep into other funds and I am literally low on cash and I need 20 bil to finish the month.

I am not offering any collateral as all I own is locked into production assets (BPOs, towers, cap parts, etc).

I have 6 SCs that will be cooked and sold on the 26th of February. The loan will be covered by the 30th, as all SCs are pre-ordered by a regular client.

Interest will be 10% which means a fixed 2 billion isk interest payment in total.

I would like to minimize the number of investors so I'd like to set the minimum limit of participation to 1 billion isk per person.

20 "shares" (not actual corp shares but bond parts) will be available for 1 billion isk each.

Money is to be sent to me after you have posted here how many shares you want.

Any questions feel free to ask, but there is not much to say except that I need liquidity to close the production of 6 SCs.



In the interest of full disclosure, some may know I run a 4 SCs lottery these days. The cash from that and the SCs are separate from my production business, which is why I will not use the isk from it to fund my liquidity issues, neither will I use the 4 SCs as a part of the deal since they are for a separate activity and I need to be able to meet all my obligations.
Mu-Shi Ai
Hosono House
#2 - 2012-02-04 03:59:30 UTC
If you need liquidity, maybe you should stop pledging 20bn to every scam bond that gets mentioned in MD. Big smile
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#3 - 2012-02-04 14:24:46 UTC
If you don't mind handing over CEO and all the shares, I could fill the total amount, at a lower interest rate as well. Would also be open to setting up a line of credit if that was the case.

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DelBoy Trades
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Disaster Strikes
#4 - 2012-02-05 09:33:41 UTC
The irony.

Damn nature, you scary!
Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#5 - 2012-02-07 20:50:36 UTC
There is no irony.

And this is still actual. I still need this liquidity to finish the month. 10% ROI, no collateral, 20 parts available at 1 bil each.

@ Grendell : Thank you for the very kind offer but I will pass on this. Unless I know someone in real life, whatever their internet reputation, I would not pass down the CEO and shares of a corp that owns over 400 bil in assets just for a 20 bil bond.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#6 - 2012-02-08 15:22:58 UTC
Levija Saplina wrote:

@ Grendell : Thank you for the very kind offer but I will pass on this. Unless I know someone in real life, whatever their internet reputation, I would not pass down the CEO and shares of a corp that owns over 400 bil in assets just for a 20 bil bond.


No harm in being cautiousSmile

As a secondary option to consider, perhaps moving 1-2 of the bpos to another corp within your organisation. Than using that corp as the collateral with it's bpos. This way the main library and corporation remain unexposed and in your control.

I'm open to suggestions, and I am pretty easy to work with. As long as some form of collateral can be involved, I'm sure a deal can be struck.

If you're still not comfortable with that option, there's no harm in that.

Let me know,
Grendell ♥

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#7 - 2012-02-08 17:20:01 UTC
Grendell wrote:
Levija Saplina wrote:

@ Grendell : Thank you for the very kind offer but I will pass on this. Unless I know someone in real life, whatever their internet reputation, I would not pass down the CEO and shares of a corp that owns over 400 bil in assets just for a 20 bil bond.


No harm in being cautiousSmile

As a secondary option to consider, perhaps moving 1-2 of the bpos to another corp within your organisation. Than using that corp as the collateral with it's bpos. This way the main library and corporation remain unexposed and in your control.

I'm open to suggestions, and I am pretty easy to work with. As long as some form of collateral can be involved, I'm sure a deal can be struck.

If you're still not comfortable with that option, there's no harm in that.

Let me know,
Grendell ♥



Ah ah I should learn from Grendell and Chribba about how to be so nice.
I'd have posted something much much harsher than this Pirate

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Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#8 - 2012-02-11 07:39:03 UTC
Still looking, and it does not need to be one single investor.

Still 20 bil to be filled.

It will still be a month long liquidity bond, since now I am behind on two orders so this will have to go to next month production.
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#9 - 2012-02-13 09:44:50 UTC
Hi Levija,

Just checking to see if a slot for 1bill is still available?


Cheers!!

AA
Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#10 - 2012-02-14 21:29:58 UTC
Arancar Australis wrote:
Hi Levija,

Just checking to see if a slot for 1bill is still available?


Cheers!!

AA


As of now, no one has shown interest which I find a bit tough but that's life.

This means I am two Supercarriers behind on my production for this month and it will induce a no-gain on the sale of these two SCs when they do come out because that's the kind of agreement I have with the people I sell SCs to.

This is rather unusual.

Anyway, as it stands, I still need the extra liquidity (not so much extra as dire right now).

So the bond is still open, and I can put you down for 1 bil yes.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#11 - 2012-02-14 23:04:26 UTC
Levija Saplina wrote:
Arancar Australis wrote:
Hi Levija,

Just checking to see if a slot for 1bill is still available?


Cheers!!

AA


As of now, no one has shown interest which I find a bit tough but that's life.

This means I am two Supercarriers behind on my production for this month and it will induce a no-gain on the sale of these two SCs when they do come out because that's the kind of agreement I have with the people I sell SCs to.

This is rather unusual.


The loan size, location of the business, amount of security offered and the reply to Grendell make this not very rather unusual.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#12 - 2012-02-14 23:54:14 UTC
Levija Saplina wrote:


This means I am two Supercarriers behind on my production for this month and it will induce a no-gain on the sale of these two SCs when they do come out because that's the kind of agreement I have with the people I sell SCs to.

This is rather unusual.

Anyway, as it stands, I still need the extra liquidity (not so much extra as dire right now).

So the bond is still open, and I can put you down for 1 bil yes.


Perhaps you can subcontract some of the work off?
There might be capital manufacturers who might be interested in mfg'ing the cap components, allowing you to control the actual ship production?

Perhaps the sub-contractor swaps you cash for a component BPO you hold. (I believe they are worth 800M - 1.6 B)
The sub-contractor then mfg's the components using that BPO.
The sub-contractor then swaps back the components for the cash that they initially gave you.

When the SC is built and sold, you give the sub-contractor the cash he is owed for materials and labour, whatever that is, and the sub gives you back your BPO.
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#13 - 2012-02-15 15:00:08 UTC
Levija Saplina wrote:
Arancar Australis wrote:
Hi Levija,

Just checking to see if a slot for 1bill is still available?


Cheers!!

AA


As of now, no one has shown interest which I find a bit tough but that's life.

This means I am two Supercarriers behind on my production for this month and it will induce a no-gain on the sale of these two SCs when they do come out because that's the kind of agreement I have with the people I sell SCs to.

This is rather unusual.

Anyway, as it stands, I still need the extra liquidity (not so much extra as dire right now).

So the bond is still open, and I can put you down for 1 bil yes.



Hi Levija,

Yes please do put me down for a billion.

When would you like the iskies sent? (The sooner the better I would imagine)

Cheers

AA
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#14 - 2012-02-16 16:03:26 UTC
Isk sent.

Cheers,

AA