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Elect Blackberry Bold: Direct Democracy

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Liara Desiato
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#21 - 2012-02-14 20:08:51 UTC
Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote:
Give me a reason why I should tell all my newbie high sec miner friends and all my l33t WH friends that you and not Two step or Xenuria or Meissa Anunthiel or The Mittani or Kelduum Revaan or any one of the much more highly qualified peoples running...


Maybe he represents the non-l33t WH people? I.e. the carebear corps that are in it for the space gold rather than the fun of explosions and lasers. Hard to say without a proper manifesto though.....
Captain S04p
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-02-14 20:09:31 UTC
I really dont understand what you are trying to acheive here...

If you want wormhole space to succeed in the agendas of CCP and CSM, you will understand that we NEED a proven, reliable candidate that knows his ****. Nothing in your thread has shown me that and I have never heard of you before. Regardless of that, it does not matter...

Think about this for a second... the whole reason for our questioning is simple.

  • What do you have to offer that Two Step already hasn't got nailed down.
  • Say wormhole space has 3000(or whatever) votes, if we both vote for you and two step, neither candidates will get a full seat. This is potentially catastrophic for wormhole space.
  • If we vote for a proven track record and hard working CSM Candidate that we KNOW knows his stuff and can get stuff done. We are more likely to get a canditate on the CSM who will work hard. We have no assurances of what you can do.


We are not voting for AHARM here, We are voting for Wormhole Space. I find it highly worrying when people get pissy when they are questioned on motives for running as a WH candidate, when the only real way we can be represented safely is Two Step.

We vote for more than one WH rep, we all potentially lose.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-02-14 20:13:13 UTC
Bei ArtJay wrote:

You imply then that anyone who plays this game as a w-space 'resident' should vote tactically for you regardless of your opinions.

When voting becomes tactical it becomes corrupt and pointless in my opinion.


Congrats, with an attitude like that you're never voting on anything, ever.

WH people with actual political sensibilities who aren't Objectivists or fainting, delicate flowers should back Two Step.

~hi~
Girard Thibault d'Anvers
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-02-14 20:35:19 UTC
Liara Desiato wrote:
Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote:
Give me a reason why I should tell all my newbie high sec miner friends and all my l33t WH friends that you and not Two step or Xenuria or Meissa Anunthiel or The Mittani or Kelduum Revaan or any one of the much more highly qualified peoples running...


Maybe he represents the non-l33t WH people? I.e. the carebear corps that are in it for the space gold rather than the fun of explosions and lasers. Hard to say without a proper manifesto though.....


My sarcasm has obviously elluded you. I do apologize, it is difficult to translate sometimes into text.

Traded out the sword in my hand for the swords in my mind and in my heart...
Malchristus
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-02-14 21:12:03 UTC
Blackberry Bold wrote:
Frankly I am the only candidate running from my corp, alliance so if they are unwilling to use their alts to simply click "like" on a simple thread then clearly my resources in effort should be placed elsewhere.


Correct and thanks in advance for stepping down from a non-sensical candidate selection in which you made no manifesto, imparted no goals connected with either of the parties you claim to represent and admitting to the EvE community that even your own corp and alliance won't back your candidacy which, I think, is probably the self-confessed by you nail in your electoral coffin.

Bye now.
Liara Desiato
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#26 - 2012-02-14 21:25:16 UTC
Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote:
Liara Desiato wrote:
Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote:
Give me a reason why I should tell all my newbie high sec miner friends and all my l33t WH friends that you and not Two step or Xenuria or Meissa Anunthiel or The Mittani or Kelduum Revaan or any one of the much more highly qualified peoples running...


Maybe he represents the non-l33t WH people? I.e. the carebear corps that are in it for the space gold rather than the fun of explosions and lasers. Hard to say without a proper manifesto though.....


My sarcasm has obviously elluded you. I do apologize, it is difficult to translate sometimes into text.



No, it didn't elude me, sorry guess my post didn't really show that though :oops: My post was meant to contain more scorn on carebears than came across I guess. Reading it back, my post is kinda lame actually. My bad.
OldMan Gana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-02-14 21:26:52 UTC
Never heard of you till now mate. Heard about the Trebor guy, he used to post something in the forums here and there, but never heard of you until now. Not trying to be a d1ck or anything, just saying that I at least never even knew you existed till now at election time.

Love United- Hate Glazer
Servitor 001
RedBallExpress
#28 - 2012-02-14 21:49:52 UTC
+1 for you BB, but you need to state your posistion a lot more clearly mate.


Cheers
winchcable
The Angelic Crusaders
#29 - 2012-02-14 22:14:48 UTC
really how much worse can he make it lol
as long as there aren't and site in's. where the carebears sing along in jita. that a good term lol
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#30 - 2012-02-14 23:28:39 UTC
Malchristus wrote:
Correct and thanks in advance for stepping down from a non-sensical candidate selection in which you made no manifesto, imparted no goals connected with either of the parties you claim to represent and admitting to the EvE community that even your own corp and alliance won't back your candidacy which, I think, is probably the self-confessed by you nail in your electoral coffin.

Likes are free, votes ain't.

Have a space like.

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Bei ArtJay
Side Kicks
Unspoken Alliance.
#31 - 2012-02-15 09:24:57 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Bei ArtJay wrote:

You imply then that anyone who plays this game as a w-space 'resident' should vote tactically for you regardless of your opinions.

When voting becomes tactical it becomes corrupt and pointless in my opinion.


Congrats, with an attitude like that you're never voting on anything, ever.

WH people with actual political sensibilities who aren't Objectivists or fainting, delicate flowers should back Two Step.


I'll agree that I am a delicate flower. I'd disagree I was an Objectivist, however we are all raised with certain Objectivist qualities in this capitalist society, something potential candidates would do well to remember.

I am actually planning to vote for you on at least one account based upon the fact I believe that that last CSM was really effective due to your leadership, and rather than caring about specific segments of the game, you seem to love giving CCP a kick up the ass and focus on its customers not itself, which in my view is what the CSM is good at.

Can I just get you to clarify that you are saying that because I am a 'WH People' you didn't need my vote anyway and I should give my vote instead to two step as it would make more sense tactically?
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-02-15 10:32:46 UTC
Perish the thought of having more that one candidate for a wormhole space representative on the CSM... What's next, a fair election process or a CSM doing what is was designed for an representing the voice of the entire community and not just that of null sec players?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-02-15 20:38:30 UTC
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-02-16 02:47:44 UTC
Bei ArtJay wrote:


Can I just get you to clarify that you are saying that because I am a 'WH People' you didn't need my vote anyway and I should give my vote instead to two step as it would make more sense tactically?


It's a choice, really. Obviously, I want the votes. All of the votes.

But if you want to allocate a vote to a 'wormhole candidate', I think Two Step has proven - through his tireless efforts - that he is the one. He has established relationships with the devs and brought home results, despite being 4th alt.

If you have multiple votes, feel free to send some my way, because I can always use the power and influence that a mandate offers. I assume, however, that most people posting in WH candidate threads are primarily allocating their votes to WH candidates, as that's the simple reality of the situation 90% of the time.

~hi~
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#35 - 2012-02-16 02:52:37 UTC
I love that the first post has completely changed. Now I am apparently some sort of pawn of Mittens, and he and I came up with this dastardly plan to mess up the campaign of the fine Blackberry Bold, who just wants to bring direct democracy to the people.

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The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-02-16 02:56:11 UTC
direct democracy is a ******** idea unless you really enjoy a society based on reality tv and the kardashians

~hi~
Mu'ad Diib
Nul-Bridge Industrial Technologies
#37 - 2012-02-16 03:13:31 UTC
At the moment There's several candidates in the pool that have less than the 100 likes.

Here's an idea.

To encourage a wide and representative shortlist and help ourselves a little into the bargain, why don't we like each other publicly with a post in each other's election post thread, and encourage others via our own posts to like the members of the sub-100 group.

This way we might all make the shortlist.

Let me know what you think about this.

Mu'ad Diib
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. When I die, all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#38 - 2012-02-16 04:08:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathan Jameson
Rek Seven wrote:
Perish the thought of having more that one candidate for a wormhole space representative on the CSM... What's next, a fair election process or a CSM doing what is was designed for an representing the voice of the entire community and not just that of null sec players?


I was going to point out that Lucius Arcturus from Taggart was running, but it seems he's pulled out due to IRL issues.

I've also been told that Rooks and Kings submitted a candidate, but I cannot find his Jita Park Speakers thread. Anyone have better luck than I?

EDIT: Found it. He also seems to have a strong track record.

The Mittani wrote:
direct democracy is a ******** idea unless you really enjoy a society based on reality tv and the kardashians


lol. This is why democracy-based governments are usually technically republics.

http://www.wormholes.info
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-02-25 14:29:48 UTC
Posting a reminder to a request for your candidacy views on the following subject of Bounty Hunting

(The linked thread is a posting to maintain a holistic view of the various candidates comments and in some way to act as a foundation for discussion. It seems to have offended one candidate that linking it is in some way implies a prescriptive need to read it or post in it, this is not the intention. Such that if you have specific thoughts on the subject due to your own awareness or thoughts, I would be happy to coallate the views for you as a result)

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
Malchristus
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-03-08 03:59:10 UTC
I see Blackberry Bold has a new corp.

Can we trust in the fact that you will pay as much attention to the writing of proposals as you did to the name of your corp?

I mean Pegasis? Seriously?? Are you representing whimholers and hosec moners too?

Roll
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