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The simple and basic concept for user friendly website (with picture)

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-02-09 19:01:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Why the layout couldn't be something like this? link to animated picture

This is obviously just a dirty copy paste from current content and the colors, items, logos, links on bars, pictures and graphics should be totally ignored. I made this just to provide simple visual presentation of easy to access layout which is easy to get used to and easy to maintain. It works as a 1 site and front page can be what ever you want to put there. It supports single login for all pages feature and header bar can contain all the java bling you might want to add. Header link bar has room for all the items now in "websites"-dropdown and for more. Left column has direct links to pretty much everything what may be needed and it is always there.

After this you could add visual preferences to entire site to faction backgrounds and other stuff. Only 1 preference page would be needed to tune everything making users life even easier than he could think of.

But obviously this is bit late now, because the train went past the station with the plans months ago...

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#2 - 2012-02-09 19:05:15 UTC
The website is fine.
Ai Shun
#3 - 2012-02-09 20:05:25 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Why the layout couldn't be something like this?


I quite like that layout. It would make navigating through the morass a bit easier and would tie everything together so you don't have to log in for multiple sites, etc.
Gordon Fell
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-09 20:14:57 UTC
Actually, the website died. Text that should be in the header is jumping all over the page.
Ganagati
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-09 20:44:49 UTC
If this were april I'd say the new website was an april fools joke. Sadly, I think they are serious.

Best guess I have is that they paid someone to make a new site, never looked at it while it was being made and now are just using it because they don't want to waste that money. >_>

I'm just gonna get the URLs I need and save em on my navigation bar (account management, APIs, and forums) and avoid going to the site anymore if possible.

.

Ai Shun
#6 - 2012-02-09 20:46:29 UTC
Gordon Fell wrote:
Actually, the website died. Text that should be in the header is jumping all over the page.


With the update the styles are munted until you clear your cache. Try a force refresh (Ctrl-F5) or, if using Chrome just spanner / under the hood it.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2012-02-09 20:47:17 UTC
moar CCP :excellence: at work!!!



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

malaire
#8 - 2012-02-09 20:49:05 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Why the layout couldn't be something like this? link to animated picture

I don't like that, far too long list of links at left - just like old website.

I prefer new site where only some of the links are on left, depending where you are currently.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-02-09 21:20:38 UTC
malaire wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Why the layout couldn't be something like this? link to animated picture

I don't like that, far too long list of links at left - just like old website.

I prefer new site where only some of the links are on left, depending where you are currently.

That could be pretty much arranged by expanding the sub link category related to current page to start of the index, but I really know if that is important.

Those drop down menus on target page (like on account management page) would work perfectly for browsing to the final target. The link list on left should contain direct route to root of all major categories and their sub categories, but not further than that. For example there should be main link to support section frontpage and sub link to petitions, but there shouldn't be links to "add petition, your petitions, petition history" or similar. Those belong to the actual petition page which most likely should give some list view about ongoing stuff right on entering that. Any way final links like that could be added to top of the links list if that is something what seems to be helpful.

Key is that when you're finished with the page you're browsing you can easily hop right to next major category or sub category with one mouse click. You can also open new stuff to new tab very easily, usually clicking links with middle mouse button or similar (dunno how common key bindings this is on peoples browsers).

Also the top link bar on the footer should have very simple links to all the major categories to give even easier access to the people who don't use the site daily and find the link index on the left bit too extensive. This way the user can pretty much choose whether he/she wants to take shortcuts or not and everyone can browse as they feel most convenient.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-02-14 12:11:54 UTC
link to basic example how to override eve-o front page with custom user page.

I will most likely write proper sidebar "hack" for entire site later after CCP failwebcrew has finished their usability nerfs. Meanwhile this example can be used as inspiration for your owns.

Fixed width website where information and pages are scattered all over the place to different sub sites... 2012... yea...

I believe that about 500-1000 eve-o forum users have installed some kind of style hack to disable fixed width from those. People do use wide screen monitors now days and want to use their entire screen area as they please. It is kinda laughable that you don't only limit the width, but also deny to give people easy access side bar for links. Empty borders and background picture clearly provide more functionality and usability than wasted space which would go to think like that.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Zag'mar Jurkar
Legion Du Lys
#11 - 2012-02-14 12:16:02 UTC
Google's new bar use a dropdown for their different websites.
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#12 - 2012-02-14 12:46:57 UTC
Another pointless hate thread from ya. Nothing constructive only ton of bullcrap. Do everyone a favour and go back to your WOW.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-02-14 12:47:30 UTC
Zag'mar Jurkar wrote:
Google's new bar use a dropdown for their different websites.

To be exact actually google has "static" horizontal link bar on top of the page with direct links to most of their used sites and more button for their less used sites. The link bar contains also the login functionality and user settings. The buttons open the sites to new window/tab as they are totally different sites.

The concept is clear and works very well. It also has very little to do with eve online as it is google and doesn't have spaceships.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-02-14 12:48:04 UTC
Elistea wrote:
Another pointless hate thread from ya. Nothing constructive only ton of bullcrap. Do everyone a favour and go back to your WOW.

I love you too :) Want some pizza?

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-02-14 13:27:00 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
The website is fine.



Which one of the multiple eve online websites is "fine"??? Individually they're all OK, but navigation between them all is complicated rubbish. And for a company whose business is entirely internet based, that's really bad.

The OP's point is you need navigation between the sites to be seamless
leich
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#16 - 2012-02-14 14:06:08 UTC
This would be far better than the peice of **** the website is now
Valei Khurelem
#17 - 2012-02-14 15:31:34 UTC
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
The website is fine.



Which one of the multiple eve online websites is "fine"??? Individually they're all OK, but navigation between them all is complicated rubbish. And for a company whose business is entirely internet based, that's really bad.

The OP's point is you need navigation between the sites to be seamless



...... So going to one tab and clicking is more complicated for you than having to click more than once in order to get anywhere to do something important like check your accounts?

I think the only thing that needs fixing is letting us only have to log in once to get to the account management section, if you lose your account it's your own fault.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-02-14 19:06:26 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:

I think the only thing that needs fixing is letting us only have to log in once to get to the account management section, if you lose your account it's your own fault.
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This is why modified version of eve gate should follow with all pages and communicate with them. It shouldn't be called as "gate" but main navigation and authorization header. It should remain exactly the same for all the pages.

The link bar on the side however could be optional for certain pages and have variable content on some other pages if needed. However it would be preferred to have that as static as possible too.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Zag'mar Jurkar
Legion Du Lys
#19 - 2012-02-14 19:29:24 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Zag'mar Jurkar wrote:
Google's new bar use a dropdown for their different websites.

To be exact actually google has "static" horizontal link bar on top of the page with direct links to most of their used sites and more button for their less used sites. The link bar contains also the login functionality and user settings. The buttons open the sites to new window/tab as they are totally different sites.

The concept is clear and works very well. It also has very little to do with eve online as it is google and doesn't have spaceships.

Have you seen the new one ? It is implemented slowly, had it a few days, but it went away, and it is a drop down.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-02-14 19:35:51 UTC
Zag'mar Jurkar wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Zag'mar Jurkar wrote:
Google's new bar use a dropdown for their different websites.

To be exact actually google has "static" horizontal link bar on top of the page with direct links to most of their used sites and more button for their less used sites. The link bar contains also the login functionality and user settings. The buttons open the sites to new window/tab as they are totally different sites.

The concept is clear and works very well. It also has very little to do with eve online as it is google and doesn't have spaceships.

Have you seen the new one ? It is implemented slowly, had it a few days, but it went away, and it is a drop down.

Dunno why you want mix google to this topic, but as you started... what would happen to google if they stuffed 90 percent of their front page with advertisements and hided the search engine to some corner under some dropdown menu? Would people keep using it and cheer for the new improved design?

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

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