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change to make courier missions in lowsec more popular
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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-11 07:56:24 UTC
Distribution agents just LOVE to send you off to lowsec destinations, paying SLIGHTLY higher rewards for these dangerous missions. The biggest problem is the potential losses involved. You can't ensure that an industrial will survive a trip through lowsec, but you can buy a cheap one and use a jump clone with no implants installed so there's little loss if you do get shot. But if you lose the ship carrying the mission cargo, you lose the cargo which is necessary for completion of the mission. If you fail the mission, you lose 10-20 missions worth of standings with the NPC corp, and you even lose several storyline missions worth of faction standings. Those hits are simply not worth the risk unless you can find a secluded spot with tons of distribution agents, or get someone to fly with you.

My solution? Take out the huge standings hit (make it a tiny standings hit, like 1-2 missions worth, no faction standings hit) and instead the mission should require a substantial down payment of collateral to accept, thus losing the cargo means you lose the collateral. This way, a daring pilot who believes they can mitigate risks would be willing to gamble their isk on the assumption that they will succeed enough missions to make more money than they lose. They won't have to worry about a string of bad luck severely crippling their standings to the point of forcing them to run level 2-3 agents for a while.

Thoughts?

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Florence Cesaille
The Kurian Order
#2 - 2012-02-13 19:43:14 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Distribution agents just LOVE to send you off to lowsec destinations, paying SLIGHTLY higher rewards for these dangerous missions. The biggest problem is the potential losses involved. You can't ensure that an industrial will survive a trip through lowsec, but you can buy a cheap one and use a jump clone with no implants installed so there's little loss if you do get shot. But if you lose the ship carrying the mission cargo, you lose the cargo which is necessary for completion of the mission. If you fail the mission, you lose 10-20 missions worth of standings with the NPC corp, and you even lose several storyline missions worth of faction standings. Those hits are simply not worth the risk unless you can find a secluded spot with tons of distribution agents, or get someone to fly with you.

My solution? Take out the huge standings hit (make it a tiny standings hit, like 1-2 missions worth, no faction standings hit) and instead the mission should require a substantial down payment of collateral to accept, thus losing the cargo means you lose the collateral. This way, a daring pilot who believes they can mitigate risks would be willing to gamble their isk on the assumption that they will succeed enough missions to make more money than they lose. They won't have to worry about a string of bad luck severely crippling their standings to the point of forcing them to run level 2-3 agents for a while.

Thoughts?



I understand to each his own, people like different things...etc etc etc.

However, Courier missions? Seriously?! People actually do them?

Why?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2012-02-13 20:01:37 UTC
Driving trucks? People actually do that? P

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Dusenman
Sensible People
Sigma Grindset
#4 - 2012-02-13 20:04:33 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Driving trucks? People actually do that? P

/c


Yes, yes they do; someone has to haul the Veldspar. :P

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#5 - 2012-02-13 20:19:45 UTC
Florence Cesaille wrote:


I understand to each his own, people like different things...etc etc etc.

However, Courier missions? Seriously?! People actually do them?

Why?



You answered your own question.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-02-13 20:28:38 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Driving trucks? People actually do that? P

/c



But its like driving trucks for an imaginary friend who pays you in vending machine tokens.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#7 - 2012-02-13 20:43:53 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Driving trucks? People actually do that? P

/c



But its like driving trucks for an imaginary friend who pays you in vending machine tokens.



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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-02-13 20:50:06 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Driving trucks? People actually do that? P

/c



But its like driving trucks for an imaginary friend who pays you in vending machine tokens.



Somewhere out there right now somebody is pretending to be Malcom Reynolds.




I suppose its safer than running player cargo.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-02-13 20:52:38 UTC
I hear some like them so much they continue to try to haul goods in their pod after getting their hauler blown up.
Fortune Foru
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-13 21:33:25 UTC
Scout and transport ship is your frien
But these missions do need a little buff.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-02-13 21:46:44 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Driving trucks? People actually do that? P

/c



But its like driving trucks for an imaginary friend who pays you in vending machine tokens.



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Macks Artilius
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-13 21:59:28 UTC
Yes, yes and yes. Right now it is pointless to even attempt a lowsec courier mission in anything other than a blockade runner and lets face it, its going to be primarily new players running courier missions. You could double the reward for lowsec courier missions and it still probably wouldn't be worth it.