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Hr Mesetas for CSM - EVE needs a Stockmarket!

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Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#1 - 2012-02-13 15:58:52 UTC
My main interrest is trade, and that´s why im running for CSM. I believe EVE could be even better if more features were added to the trade and market aspect of the game.

Stockmarket (my main interest)
- This could open up a whole new dimension of trading in EVE !
- As is, trading corp shares is based on trust because there is ZERO guarantee that a scammer wont run of with the ISK you invested.
- CORP SECURITY is a major factor. I´ve talked to alot of CEO´s searching for corps to invest in, but everybody are afraid of corp-takeovers. With a multi member corp 5% is enough to vote out the CEO (as far as i know) Only single person-corps are are safe because non corp members cant replace a corp member CEO.
- "Corp History" is an essential part to make this work. The public/potentional investors need to be able to see corp info like : Payout-details, corporate strategy, corp-age, # of corp members and shareholders etc to be able to evaluate the corp shares.
- Of course there need to be a stock market equal to the regular market where you can buy or sell shares.

Also :

Marketing Tools.
- I´ve been wanting the possibility to place ads on the billboards for the price of X ISK. That leads to a secondary option : Corporate billbords
- Ads on Capitain´s Quarters screen

Fiscal Services
- To make EVE-banks a reality, the banks need to be able to claim collateral e.g ships, mats, items etc. so that that ISK cant be transfered to another char, with no consequenses
- Loan Contracts is also an opportunity, but again collateral is needed.

Hr Mesetas
CEO of Domain Trade Corp

Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-02-13 16:03:02 UTC
what is your stance on Darius III?
Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#3 - 2012-02-13 16:09:35 UTC
The old persian guy or the Darius III in EVE ?
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-13 16:10:44 UTC
What's your stance on attending important space meetings? For example, if your significant other's health was at risk, would you attend the meetings no matter what?
Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#5 - 2012-02-13 16:14:23 UTC
if my significant other´s health was at risk and it depended on the meeting, i would go to the meeting - no doubt!
thetwilitehour
Caldari Provisions
#6 - 2012-02-13 16:30:44 UTC
Do you have some fundamental plan to bring a stock market to Eve? How will you address the inherent trust mechanisms required? Where can I send my isk so that I can get the big returns?
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-13 16:36:48 UTC
Hr Mesetas wrote:
if my significant other´s health was at risk and it depended on the meeting, i would go to the meeting - no doubt!

The answer is you should be skipping over the meeting as we're all human. If you're wanting to be on the CSM team, you're going to be working with other humans with moral obligations to their lives first over a game. So they are willing to emphasize with you that you have bigger importance in your life should they ever happen. The Mittani (he is not some soulless jackass) which is more than likely he will get the CSM chair again will emphasize with you over your obligations to other things.
RUSROG
Avalanche.
#8 - 2012-02-13 16:42:09 UTC
So basically, make more spreadsheets add more graphs?
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-02-13 16:45:29 UTC
There is no way to have a stock market in EVE because there is no accountability and law enforcement.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us

Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#10 - 2012-02-13 16:52:44 UTC
The problem with stock/shares as it is now is that, you have no guarantee that you get payouts. If the corporate wallet had a feature/division locked for payouts, that would make the handling easier. If a stockmarket is to be a reallity there are quite a lot of issue that must be adressed.
Osabojo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-02-13 17:02:28 UTC
How do you feel about a way to buy CCP shares with isk?
Osabojo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-13 17:03:14 UTC
Related question: Would you implement short selling in the EvE stock market?
Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#13 - 2012-02-13 17:15:02 UTC
@ Osabojo : Honestly, I havn´t thought about CCP shares but i think it´s an interesting idea! About short selling, I think that it could be possible, but it would depend on how the stockmarket and linked features works.
Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#14 - 2012-02-13 18:15:41 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:
There is no way to have a stock market in EVE because there is no accountability and law enforcement.

I know, but that is what i want to change!
HELIC0N ONE
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-02-13 18:22:46 UTC
Hr Mesetas wrote:
Krios Ahzek wrote:
There is no way to have a stock market in EVE because there is no accountability and law enforcement.

I know, but that is what i want to change!


The obvious follow up question is how on earth you intend to introduce 'accountability and law enforcement' to allow your stock market pet project without adversely affecting.... pretty much the entirety of the rest of the game.
namron 7
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-02-13 18:43:00 UTC
i notice that the goons maybe hijacking this thread for no reasonBig smile

Thanks for the help

Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#17 - 2012-02-13 18:54:41 UTC
HELIC0N ONE wrote:
Hr Mesetas wrote:
Krios Ahzek wrote:
There is no way to have a stock market in EVE because there is no accountability and law enforcement.

I know, but that is what i want to change!


The obvious follow up question is how on earth you intend to introduce 'accountability and law enforcement' to allow your stock market pet project without adversely affecting.... pretty much the entirety of the rest of the game.

It would deffinetly affect the game, no question about it. I think it would bring a whole new dimension to trading in EVE. As far as i know there is no MMO that has this feature(correct me if i´m wrong), so if CCP introduced it, it would be a first. It cant be done without affecting large aspects of EVE, but if its done properly, it would be to the better, bringing an extra level to trading.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#18 - 2012-02-13 19:30:46 UTC
Last time I checked, CCP Games is privately own and therefore not part of the stock market. Other than that, I like the idea about incorporating a stock market into New Eden.

Adapt or Die

Hr Mesetas
Domain Trade Corp
#19 - 2012-02-13 19:36:14 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
Last time I checked, CCP Games is privately own and therefore not part of the stock market. Other than that, I like the idea about incorporating a stock market into New Eden.

It an ingame stockmarket where to trade corp shares i would like to see in EVE.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-02-13 19:52:17 UTC
eve doesn't need a stock market, there's no securities regulation, and every 'bank' in eve is a scam

hope this helps

~hi~

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