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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12405684

If the story being told here is correct, some CCP pilot brought a jove ship onto TQ and cried and took it away when he lost it.

Frankly, this is an issue I would like the CSM to take up with CCP. If they're going to fly on TQ, no matter what they're in, then the same rules of engagement should apply. Normal players can't cry and delete the drop when they get ganked and neither should CCP.

If it was for testing something, there's a whole other server for that!

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What? That's not what I was saying and it was not what I was proposing. Your post does not relate in any way to what was being said.

To repeat the point: if CCP plays on Tranquility they should play with the same rules that affect us all. It's incredibly lame to delete a drop because you don't like what dropped unless all players on TQ have this right.

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Well he clearly had no business being there in that ship but what you're accusing him of is pretty extreme. Frankly, if he wanted to give his friends special "favours" there are a lot of other ways he could do it under the radar.

Personally, I think he was just being a fool and either panicked or got all ego-hurt about losing his ship and decided to cover it up.... but he can't cover it up completely because the killmail was registered.

Either way I find what happened distasteful and I hope it doesn't happen again.

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i don't think it was his own decision as i seriously doubt any eve dev can give away plexes left and right%)

i think that's the only case that went to the public

and of course i don't accuse CCP as it is of anything.
i just find suspicious the actions of a particular CCP employee and think CCP made the right decision and removed the ship from the game.

Posting in a thread full of "tinfoil hattery."

That's a "bughunter" DEV ship and is normally supposed to be "invisible" to players. Most likely he/she was monitoring/looking for an issue on TQ and forgot to fit a cloak. Dunno what that Enigma was doing in the cargo... but w/e. It was a lucky kill on someone whom people shouldn't have been able to kill. Nothing more.

Tinfoil and greed thread. Only hilmar should feel so sad over not getting everything he wanted.

LOL....

Ok... ok.... let's see..

I've been accused of tin-foil-hattery, greed, and being incomprehensible.

It's no wonder the devs never read these threads... they always seem to degenerate into chest-thumping forum PVP.... boring

The only point being made here is this:

if DEV's decide to play on tranquility they should play by the same rules as the rest of us.

it's that simple. It didn't happen in this case and I don't think that's right.

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I know a lot of people don't read any rules but let me highlight the part of the rule people agree to when playing EVE which can easy be used.

CCP MAY FIND IT NECESSARY ON OCCASION TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR RESET CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF THE PERSISTENT GAME WORLD MECHANICS, INTERFACE OR FEATURES OF EVE ONLINE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN GAME BALANCE AND ENHANCE PLAYABILITY OR PERFORMANCE FOR ITS SUBSCRIBERS. THESE CHANGES MAY AFFECT OR CAUSE SETBACKS FOR THE CHARACTERS YOU’VE CREATED.

To take it even further I could petition several people who replied in this thread under ToS rule 1.

You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.

I am fairly sure I can make a case in regards to the underlined parts of that rule.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the player reprsentatitive to ... er... repsensent the players' interests. If they can't ... or won't then the whole concept of the CSM is at issue here....

If PL, Raiden. or Shadow were able, unlike all other players, to "delete" undesireable losses because they didn't like what dropped then people would object.

My only point here is that CCP should play according to the same rules as everyone else if they decide to play on TQ. That's all.

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