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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-02-12 07:07:40 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
[quote=Astenion]Quick question for everyone between the ages of 30 and 40 (or up): what would have happened if you had spoken to your parents in that way when you were a teenager?



Grounded constantly, put in a institution, kicked out from house and had locks changed on me, was told if I end up in jail I better get comfy, never went to prom. But the worst incident of all was they destroyed a bunch of my GI Joe's. I will make sure they never forget that heresy, oh yes, I will have it put on their grave markers.


I'm 28 can I still answer as I was raised in a 3rd world country? I'd have gotten the **** kicked out of me (with some kind of bludgeoning tool, either a stick ((South Africa in the 80s, and we didn't have the rule of thumb... more like the rule of wrist. Also Boondock Saints reference Pirate)) or a belt.



Would a belt be a bludgeon tool? I would think more of a flail or whip. Never got either but got a hand a few times though that stopped really early on. Never had anything in the way of physical contact and I didn't mind doing chores cause I got allowance for them.


It really didn't make a difference from my end... the buckle sucked Ugh

Also you have to think of it from the 3rd world perspective, the law would've sided with my father because over there he was the authority in the household. Had I had the capacity to fight back and win (he had crazy 3rd world paramilitary training, let's face it. He would have killed me) the law would have sided with me.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#42 - 2012-02-12 07:27:54 UTC
I must be getting tired, I'm doubling up my sentences.

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-02-12 07:38:26 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Had I had the capacity to fight back and win.


My dad learned how much I hated corporal punishment on kids when I got to the age of 14, he raised his hand to me one to many times and got the ass kicking of his life.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#44 - 2012-02-12 08:54:19 UTC
The whole argument with the pros and cons are all on the same short bus: you're all taking the same ride to the same place.


My father would have saved the ammo, sold the laptop and kept the money, and then would have said "When you pay for your own computer and your own internet, you can post anything you want".

The old man was a genius about this sort of thing.


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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#45 - 2012-02-12 08:56:19 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The whole argument with the pros and cons are all on the same short bus: you're all taking the same ride to the same place.


My father would have saved the ammo, sold the laptop and kept the money, and then would have said "When you pay for your own computer and your own internet, you can post anything you want".

The old man was a genius about this sort of thing.





True, but this guy was more entertaining Big smile
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#46 - 2012-02-12 09:59:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
2bhammered wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
(...)

Remember, respect is everything.


So this is why it must be earned.



It is not easy to be a parent, I am sure he is a better father than many others. It is obvious that he cares and I would not go as far as to assume they have a bad relationship because of what happened. Now if more parents cared as much as he does, perhaps things would be for the better.


Frankly this stuff is completely outside of what I can grasp. Firearms for parenting looks like the utterly stupid sh** only utterly stupid american would do, and then this guy just would give stupidity a bad name. Ugh

The only thing that I am positively sure is that if you do something to a child that you would not dare to do to an adult, then you're doing it wrong. Respect is a two way street. And this guy just called so many disasters on him that he's gonna be bloody lucky if he won't spend the rest of his days suffering about his daughter. This road leads to sh**.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#47 - 2012-02-12 10:06:34 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
(...)

Remember, respect is everything.


So this is why it must be earned.



It is not easy to be a parent, I am sure he is a better father than many others. It is obvious that he cares and I would not go as far as to assume they have a bad relationship because of what happened. Now if more parents cared as much as he does, perhaps things would be for the better.


Frankly this stuff is completely outside of what I can grasp. Firearms for parenting looks like the utterly stupid sh** only utterly stupid american would do, and then this guy just would give stupidity a bad name. Ugh

The only thing that I am positively sure is that if you do something to a child that you would not dare to do to an adult, then you're doing it wrong. Respect is a two way street. And this guy just called so many disasters on him that he's gonna be bloody lucky if he won't spend the rest of his days suffering about his daughter. This road leads to sh**.



Listen, I know most people, me included were brought up in a country where only criminals have guns but guns do not make a person bad.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#48 - 2012-02-12 13:06:21 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
(...)

Remember, respect is everything.


So this is why it must be earned.



It is not easy to be a parent, I am sure he is a better father than many others. It is obvious that he cares and I would not go as far as to assume they have a bad relationship because of what happened. Now if more parents cared as much as he does, perhaps things would be for the better.


Frankly this stuff is completely outside of what I can grasp. Firearms for parenting looks like the utterly stupid sh** only utterly stupid american would do, and then this guy just would give stupidity a bad name. Ugh

The only thing that I am positively sure is that if you do something to a child that you would not dare to do to an adult, then you're doing it wrong. Respect is a two way street. And this guy just called so many disasters on him that he's gonna be bloody lucky if he won't spend the rest of his days suffering about his daughter. This road leads to sh**.



Listen, I know most people, me included were brought up in a country where only criminals have guns but guns do not make a person bad.


I am not judging the guy, I can see he is concerned and hurt... but that doesn't changes that I feel something is really wrong about mixing guns and parenting. It's wrong, wrong, wrong.
SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#49 - 2012-02-12 14:21:48 UTC
Here is the guy's facebook page https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii

But he didn't go snooping through her page or computer to find the post. Apparently it had something to do with the family dog. I guess the dog has a facebook and the girl didn't block the dog. So, when the dad got on the computer one day, it was on the dog's account and he saw her post. That's what he said happened anyways.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#50 - 2012-02-12 17:13:06 UTC
As a professional Psychologist on the Internetz with no verifiable claim of my degree but my word alone, I say I approve of this wholeheartedly.

I totally despise the parenting method of some people that pretend their kids are their friends, their cherished confidents and all of that modern psychobabble sophist bullcrap so called "experts" spout these days.

Children need LIMITS, not favorable relationships in eternal harmony and balance in the light side of the Force.

Was his method to do it questionable? it's a personal opinion of yours and yours alone, but he took a decision as a responsible parent enforcing LIMITS. The act of shooting the laptop with a gun was simply an added touch of personal bliss.

LIMITS, BOUNDARIES, PECKING ORDER, HIERARCHY you name it, it's how life works, this strange dissolution of personal responsibility where everyone does what they want and feel entitled to do it and STILL pretend to be part of society and still feel ENTITLED to anything society can give you is just plain WRONG.

As a hardworking man that has to sweat for his own money I totally agree with him, and with the bullet he reserved at his wife's request for the laptop.

When you have kids, you can damn treat them like you want and I will happily enjoy trying to reeducate them for you when you blame the School and the Government for their failures as I bill you hundreds of dollars.

Parents these days remind me of the Dog Whisperer show in Animal Planet. Usually it boils down to the Dog Whisperer teaching the PET OWNERS how to enforce and treat their unruly pets in proper ways.

As usual, feel free to say how wrong I am and what a terrible terrible person I will be as a parent and how I represent the BAAL children eating statue of the ancients and anyone that disagrees with you on the "proper" way to raise a child.

Also please, don't use the "I raised my kids just fine by letting them do anything" card. It's so obtuse it's laughable.

Main reason I stopped seeing children in therapy is because I ended up trying to give therapy to the parents most of the time and they refused to acknowledge they were the ones responsible for their children's behavior and instead dumped them on the sophists that charged them more but labeled their kids as "special" with all kinds of modern tags, like VIOLET KIDS or INDIGO KIDS (Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh) ... that's why I ended up working in a Psychiatric Hospital.

Up to this day every time I hear someone saying his or her kid is an Indigo (or any kind of variant thereof) I feel the urge to spit them with phlegm in the eye.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-02-12 18:47:36 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
I am not judging the guy, I can see he is concerned and hurt... but that doesn't changes that I feel something is really wrong about mixing guns and parenting. It's wrong, wrong, wrong.



in all honesty the fact that he used a gun can be seen in a multitude of ways.



I, myself, would've used an axe. He used a handgun. Is it wrong? Only if you vilify weapons.

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Selinate
#52 - 2012-02-12 19:00:55 UTC
I think this video honestly shows what's wrong with both American children these days and American parenting...
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#53 - 2012-02-12 19:50:50 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


I am not judging the guy, I can see he is concerned and hurt... but that doesn't changes that I feel something is really wrong about mixing guns and parenting. It's wrong, wrong, wrong.



Some of my most memorable moments was going out target practicing with my father.

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Sasha Khaine
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-02-12 20:26:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Sasha Khaine
So he shot her laptop... so what. It taught her a lesson and hopefully many other children too. The father didn't intend for it to become an internet sensation, he merely posted the video for her daughter and other friends to see too. I see parents all the time who don't tell their children off when they do something wrong, I'm glad this guy stepped up to being a father and took care of the situation.

Several years ago if you talked back to your parents or swore at them, you would have been smacked or belted across the arse. In England we even used to get the "clean out your mouth" treatment and had soap scrubbed in our mouth.

The dad bought the laptop, he upgraded it and spent a fortune updating it for her and what does he get? Vulgar behaviour and disrespect.

Respect is indeed a two way street but clearly the daughter has shown little to none considering what her father has done for her. Besides, if the kid wants to spout crap about her father and mother on the internet for everyone to see, publicly humiliating them to her friends and their parents then it is only fare to share a counter argument across the internet too, to the same audience.


Also in Soviet Russia, laptop shoots father.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-02-12 22:14:31 UTC
Sasha Khaine wrote:


Also in Soviet Russia, laptop shoots father.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8nKEQa_gDs&list=FLj2VCEMdFKOWFNrLU2uVYHg&index=1&feature=plpp_video

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Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#56 - 2012-02-13 02:07:41 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
c/d

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU&feature=player_embedded

tl;dr version: 15 year old girl posts disrespectful post on facebook about parents, dad empties a .45 into her laptop.

I vote epic parenting, redneck IT guys are awesome IT guys Pirate


An open letter to The Laptop Girl:


Kiddo, you have no idea how lucky you are (or were, anyway).

You have three square meals a day, a safe (and secure) place to sleep at night, a laptop computer that I, a 29-year-old earning 12 bucks an hour, can't afford, and access to the Internet -- all on somebody else's dime, might I add.

And then you go and do something like that.

I'm not going to lecture you on 'when I was your age', or tell you how incredibly immature and ungrateful that little stunt was. You probably got the idea pretty quickly after seeing your dad unload his .45 into your laptop. I'm also not going to judge you on the obvious lack of respect you have for your family and how hard they work to keep you safe.

Instead, I'm only going to say this:

Harden the f*** up. Compared to some people in this world, you're in the lap of luxury. There are people, possibly in your own hometown, that don't have a warm house to sleep in, or a family to house them -- people that spend the whole day, every day, wondering what they're going to eat and hoping that it doesn't have to come from a garbage can.

And you grouse about tidying a room and making a cup of coffee.

You'll probably never see this letter -- I'm honestly not sure if that's a good thing or not. I'm certainly hoping that you never have to see it, and that you've had some sense knocked into your head by what your dad did.

And I weep for you if you haven't.

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Sandslinger
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-02-13 10:41:52 UTC
Fuee wrote:
Between inane video blogging and black people taping random violence for giggles. I think we can all agree that commonly affordable camcorders were a step in the wrong direction.



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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#58 - 2012-02-13 19:39:30 UTC
I can not say that I disagree with the guys actions, although I think I would not be so over the top. I say this because her friends seeing said video he posts, will never affect them.

That being said, my child will feel the wrath if she ever puts out the words,"when you are told old to wipe you own ass and you call me for help, I will not be there. MY energy could be much better directed then put into an ungrateful spoiled little ****.


Slade
Squidgey
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-02-13 20:48:36 UTC
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
Terrible parenting, all he did was show her that its acceptable to have a temper tantrum and destroy things if you dislike something somebody did. The daughters behaviour was pretty normal, shooting things in temper is not.

Taking it off her and making her buy her own would have been more constructive.

If you actually believe that, you must have not been a teenager at any point in your life. Taking it away means nothing to basically any kid over 13 these days.

Nothing terrible about it, and I don't recall seeing anyone throwing a temper tantrum. What I saw was a father making an example of something she took for granted and does not deserve to have. Because as I recall, he bought it for her in the first place, making it his own property.

The point was made in her mind far more effectively than grounding her and letting her ***** and cry on facebook about how her parent's are mean. And he very clearly stated that she is to buy her own laptop to replace that one if she wants another one.
Squidgey
Perkone
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-02-13 20:51:40 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
I can not say that I disagree with the guys actions, although I think I would not be so over the top. I say this because her friends seeing said video he posts, will never affect them.

That being said, my child will feel the wrath if she ever puts out the words,"when you are told old to wipe you own ass and you call me for help, I will not be there. MY energy could be much better directed then put into an ungrateful spoiled little ****.


Slade

It wasnt about her friends, it was about her being publicly disciplined after she publicly insulted her parents over something which, from any adult point of view is perfectly acceptable. But from her little stuck up, world revolves around her point of view, she felt she actually had a valid point by complaining about having homework and chores.

Every kid thinks it is unfair until they move out and pay their own bills. Then they have to do 100% of the work themselves.

If you ask me, more parents need to be like this. Set rules, follow them, and teach your children that breaking the rules means facing the consequences.