Science & Industry

Subtile or subtle? Or neither?

Anyway back to the OP I think this question should be filed under the 'trolling' section. I suggest you post with a char with at least a little history before you ask such a question. There you go - you've had a reaction.

If this was a serious question I would answer by saying I like manufacturing. Most professions in New Eden are viable and you can 'mix n match' as you choose. I daresay most manufacturers either have some combat ability with their industrial pilot or they have another pilot/alt that does have the ability to fight when the need arises.

Your logic is seriously flawed.

In a typical MMO game you train up a tank character and want to switch to a DPS character you generally start a new character and start the grind all over again. No instant switch.

In EVE there is no limit to what skills or how many skills you can learn on a character. And there is no grind. just buy the skill books pop them in your head and continue to do what ever while the skills for what you want to get into train.

EVE has eliminated the grind, and there is far more to PVP in EVE than skill points. you also need the isk to replace ships. The skill as a player to know how and when to react to different situations. that comes with time and has nothing to do with skill points. You want end game? you want to fly a super capital in PVP? if you had unlimited isk and bought a character off the bazaar with great skills to fly a Titan and bought a Titan and all the fittings to fly it, would you be ready for Super Cap PVP? HELL NO you would not be. You would most likely lose the ship the first time you undocked it.

How long does it take you in WOW to not only get a character to max level but get all the raid gear and PVP gear to actually compete in end game PVP? And then what? your character is maxed, you got the best gear, you are bored of the end game content. you either start a new character or quit and try a different game. EVE has no max level. no point where there is nothing more to do or try. it would take more than 20 years to train every possible skill to max level and the game has only been around for less than half that time. EVE is as close to the perfect MMO there is. That is why it is still growing after +8 years.

PVP and industry skills here , i mostly do industry and once in a while do a few months pirating.Both can be as enjoying or annoying at times.

There are some other skills that cross between pvp and pve.

My indy alt lived in a wormhole. Before pi, I needed something to train as I didn't want to mine, I had maxed my research skills, and I wanted my alt to assist in pos defense. I trained anchoring to 5 so I could become a pos gunner. Learning skills were removed, I had a bunch of skill points, and wow.... Anchoring 5 and propulsion jamming to 5 I could anchor a large t2 warp bubble.

I had covert ops already trained up to fly probing ships. I had the cloak too. I wanted a good hauler, trained for the itty 5, next thing i know, I can use a cloaky t2 transport to deliver and anchor t2 bubbles in nul sec. Plus I can fly a freighter, and jump freighter wasn't far off.

Later, I get into invention. I have all the prereqs, next thing I know graviton physics to 4, i'm inventing, manufacturing, and anchoring my own t2 bubbles, and can pick up my own supplies in hi sec and jump them out to nul.

Next up, cyno to 5 so I can fly cloaky covert opts with covert cynos. I'll have an indy alt that could help out any nul alliance easily and he's still mostly indy.

So really, just because he is an indy alt and can only use civilian guns, doesn't mean he can't do unique, pvp skills that make him more valuable to a nul alliance than your average combat pvp pilot all from a pve base of research and manufacturing.

you want PVP >>>> Battlefield 3 that way...

but seen internet spaceships doing circles until some one blowns up doesnt bring any interest to me. now the drama and epeen that EvE brings there is no other...

You seriously flatter yourself if you think that this is true.

Whats the prize?! whats the prize!?

Max skill Orca and Rorqual pilot with mining foreman mindlink can only use drones for weapons so...

* Dominix with utility high/mid slots for neuts, web, remote sensor boosters and such. I know I always hate facing these.

* As a Rorqual pilot, he uses 5 warfare links, so he can use all the non-mining links too. Was considering putting him in a Command Ship. He will also get Fleet Command eventually (Currently Wing Command 3).

* Rattlesnake PvE drone boat leading to both Chimera and Thanatos carriers. I plan to train Nidhoggur and Archon too eventually.

* Since he is heading for carriers and Logistics 5, might as well as put him into a Scimitar along the way. He already has Logistics Chief Elite from watching over Hulks, and Minmatar Cruiser 3 from doing codebreaking and archaeology in a Hurricane.

* With Minmatar Cruiser 5, might as well as add Propulsion Jamming 5 for a Broadsword HIC. He's already got Graviton Physics from using a Capital Tractor Beam on the Rorqual.

* If you've got Jump Drive Calibration 5 and BS 5, then might as well be a Black Ops pilot too.

So really not all that different a skill set for at least this Orca and Rorqual pilot to be a useful PvP pilot.