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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-12 00:30:39 UTC
Ive watched all the movies and something about the new trilogy has puzzled me for a while. There is a cut scene that was in a lot of commercials many of you may have seen, where OBI WAN is screaming "you were supposed to bring balance to the force"


Well, if there were hundreds of jedi, and only a seth lord and apprentis. Wouldn't balance be killing almost all the jedi to equal out the numbers. So in effect Anikan Skywalker did bring balance to the force? Doesn't it seem completely unbalance.

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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#2 - 2012-02-12 00:37:00 UTC
The knowledge you seek begins here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

And ends with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1MqksXm6Zs&feature=related

In a bit fewer words, simple answer is that the whole story is a giant plot hole.
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#3 - 2012-02-12 00:43:40 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Well, if there were hundreds of jedi, and only a seth lord and apprentis. Wouldn't balance be killing almost all the jedi to equal out the numbers. So in effect Anikan Skywalker did bring balance to the force? Doesn't it seem completely unbalance.


Hypothetically speaking, if such a horrible movie had ever been made, it would have been very obvious that Obi Wan's outrage is because he (like many others) heard what he wanted to hear and assumed that "balance" would favor his side. When the truth (which would have been obvious to an objective observer) was finally revealed, he blamed Anakin so that he would not have to face his own failure to understand the prophecy.
Liam Mirren
#4 - 2012-02-12 02:14:50 UTC
Are you seriously trying to reason with Lucas' "logic"?

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#5 - 2012-02-12 02:52:24 UTC
Technically Anikan did bring balance to the force by pretty much killing everybody who could use the force, he just didn't do it in the time frame that the Jedi had in mind or in the fashion. But he did remove the Sith and as a by product brought about the destruction of the Empire with the same stone so that the galaxy can rebuild a new republic.

And Luke may have the Force but he sure as hell ain't a master. But I'm sure he could go about rebuilding the Jedi order again.

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-02-12 03:05:55 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ive watched all the movies and something about the new trilogy has puzzled me for a while. There is a cut scene that was in a lot of commercials many of you may have seen, where OBI WAN is screaming "you were supposed to bring balance to the force"


Well, if there were hundreds of jedi, and only a seth lord and apprentis. Wouldn't balance be killing almost all the jedi to equal out the numbers. So in effect Anikan Skywalker did bring balance to the force? Doesn't it seem completely unbalance.

leave your feedback here.




I always thought that to, but considering how badly they where written its hard to say if there was any deeper intention behind the line.

When George Lucas was writing the script he might just have thought "in episode one I wrote a line about there being a prophecy about Anakin. OK I will make Obi Wan scream about the prophecy during light sabre fight 14,785 part A, that will be really profound and dramatic and epic, Hmmm perhaps we could make an Obi Wan toy that can speak the line to!"
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-02-12 03:09:39 UTC
The star wars hate is very strong in this forum thread

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SpaceSquirrels
#8 - 2012-02-12 03:18:55 UTC
Shouldnt the first question be "What exactly does balance to the force entail/be?" And then why would it rely on one person?

But come one a lot of star wars stuff makes no sense.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#9 - 2012-02-12 03:26:23 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
The star wars hate is very strong in this forum thread



The prequels are terrible movies, your own OP asks a question that has no answer yet it is the reason behind everything in all 6 movies now.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#10 - 2012-02-12 03:31:45 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Shouldnt the first question be "What exactly does balance to the force entail/be?" And then why would it rely on one person?

But come one a lot of star wars stuff makes no sense.



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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-12 03:32:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
The star wars hate is very strong in this forum thread


Where's the hate? Just a few comments about the writing, and the obligatory Plinkett review link.
stoicfaux
#12 - 2012-02-12 03:40:28 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ive watched all the movies and something about the new trilogy has puzzled me for a while. There is a cut scene that was in a lot of commercials many of you may have seen, where OBI WAN is screaming "you were supposed to bring balance to the force"


Well, if there were hundreds of jedi, and only a seth lord and apprentis. Wouldn't balance be killing almost all the jedi to equal out the numbers. So in effect Anikan Skywalker did bring balance to the force? Doesn't it seem completely unbalance.


Yup, that was my take. It was pretty obvious that the Jedi council were the ones in need of nerfing and the Jedi were too arrogant to realize that the prophecy could have meant buffing the dark side and a nerfing the light side given how the Jedi Council was an integral part of the Senate (politics,) had a huge set of facilities on the capitol world, and were quite numerous.

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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-02-12 03:47:50 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ive watched all the movies and something about the new trilogy has puzzled me for a while. There is a cut scene that was in a lot of commercials many of you may have seen, where OBI WAN is screaming "you were supposed to bring balance to the force"


Well, if there were hundreds of jedi, and only a seth lord and apprentis. Wouldn't balance be killing almost all the jedi to equal out the numbers. So in effect Anikan Skywalker did bring balance to the force? Doesn't it seem completely unbalance.


Yup, that was my take. It was pretty obvious that the Jedi council were the ones in need of nerfing and the Jedi were too arrogant to realize that the prophecy could have meant buffing the dark side and a nerfing the light side given how the Jedi Council was an integral part of the Senate (politics,) had a huge set of facilities on the capitol world, and were quite numerous.




Oh look, its stoicfaux. Whats the phonetic pronunciation of your name. I'm thinking Stoy-fo
I always enjoy your marauder, minmatar battleship posts.

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stoicfaux
#14 - 2012-02-12 06:06:15 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Oh look, its stoicfaux. Whats the phonetic pronunciation of your name. I'm thinking Stoy-fo

Click on the loudspeaker icon next to the word.
stoh-ik + foh

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#15 - 2012-02-12 17:37:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Brujo Loco
Liam Mirren wrote:
Are you seriously trying to reason with Lucas' "logic"?


Han Shot in self defense, not first K? the CGI added several years later proves it.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-02-12 17:51:42 UTC
According to GL the balance in the force means light side only with sith being totally gone. The difference between the light side and the dark side of the force is, that light side is symbiotic(balanced) while the dark side is cancerous.
Brisco County
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-02-12 18:22:20 UTC
The whole idea was stupid, and fleshing it out in the prequels just made it look even more ridiculous.

f'king midochloreans, really?
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-02-12 19:03:57 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
According to GL the balance in the force means light side only with sith being totally gone. The difference between the light side and the dark side of the force is, that light side is symbiotic(balanced) while the dark side is cancerous.



Some one should tell GL what the definition of balance. Now, if he were to restore order to the force, it would make more sense. Cant have good with out evil, otherwise there's no reference point and we don't know what light is or is not.

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stoicfaux
#19 - 2012-02-12 19:50:32 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
According to GL the balance in the force means light side only with sith being totally gone. The difference between the light side and the dark side of the force is, that light side is symbiotic(balanced) while the dark side is cancerous.

Seriously? Any chance you can provide a reference?

As a guy who grew up on D&D's alignment system, Elric/The Eternal Champion series' Law v. Chaos, and a healthy dose of Good, Evil, and Huge Splotchy Gray Areas, I find GL's idea of "balance" to be disturbing.

edit: Bah, never mind: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chosen_One
"The idea of balance of the Force, a central tenet of the Jedi Order, refers to the ideal state in which the Force exists in nature, i.e. as the light side. The presence of the dark side corrupts and destroys this natural balance,[3] and the Jedi viewed it as their duty to restore it."

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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-02-12 20:07:35 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
According to GL the balance in the force means light side only with sith being totally gone. The difference between the light side and the dark side of the force is, that light side is symbiotic(balanced) while the dark side is cancerous.

Seriously? Any chance you can provide a reference?

As a guy who grew up on D&D's alignment system, Elric/The Eternal Champion series' Law v. Chaos, and a healthy dose of Good, Evil, and Huge Splotchy Gray Areas, I find GL's idea of "balance" to be disturbing.

edit: Bah, never mind: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chosen_One
"The idea of balance of the Force, a central tenet of the Jedi Order, refers to the ideal state in which the Force exists in nature, i.e. as the light side. The presence of the dark side corrupts and destroys this natural balance,[3] and the Jedi viewed it as their duty to restore it."



I find your lack of faith disturbing.
thats my favorite quote, i tell my gf that all the time

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