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Nerf Target Painter
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Gypsy RoseLee
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-02-11 04:14:30 UTC
Target Painter V in 17h 22m 32s

Eat it.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-02-11 08:28:00 UTC
I agree. It sucks having my rokh's sig radius being blown up as high as a carrier with 1 lousy target painter on it. I can get insta-popped by a dreadnought!! Dreadnoughts are for sieging stations, not mini-caps!

On behalf of mine and other Rokhs, as well as Orcas and other mini-caps, I humbly ask that the target painter be nerfed.

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Iskawa Zebrut
Smoke to Train - Train to Smoke
#23 - 2012-02-11 11:28:15 UTC
Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:
Titan + Target painter = Insta popped light interdictors.....

I fail to see the problem here. If someone wants to load up their support fleet with enough painters to pull that off, all the more power to them. Although I'm fairly sure the stacking penalty would make that tactic incredibly ineffective...
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#24 - 2012-02-11 12:01:53 UTC
No, Remove or fix Titans not target Painters, their the problem. Think before you post Roll

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Freyya
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-02-11 15:41:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyya
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:
Remove the target painter out of the game


Stopped caring there...

Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:
So pls nerf the Target Painter before you lose another 10k subscribers


You lost what little legitimacy there was to your post right there.

You don't remove something from the game just because one ship is overpowered because of it. Especially when said ship is billions of ISK in cost and the least used ship in the game.

Sorry...but no...if you want to fix titans so they can't abuse the module then fine.


Bolded and underlined the wrong part for emphasis. I'm sure i can find you at least 10 ships that get used even less than titans Lol
Furthermore; Just because said ship costs billions and billions of isk does not mean it should be good at stuff it wasn't designed for in the first place. Titans are just one of the few ships that where introduced bacause they where cool, expensive and because CCP never guessed that after a couple years they'd be available in the thousands and thousands. Just a shipclass to create an isk sink (lol) and give people an "endgame" to go for. It's role was clear in the beginning, after more and more came along the DD AoE was revoked and the cyno DD before that i think. It just doesn't have a real purpose anymore other than projecting massive dps to whatever and moving along large fleets. Putting dread guns on the titan was a mistake due to "what the hell can we do with the titan after we nerf DD and moving for x mins after firing said DD = guns to defend itself against other caps there to gank it". That quickly turned into a fubar fest due to being able to kill sub caps with said massive dps guns. Multiply that by 30 (usual titan fleet strenght 23,5/7 of larger established alliances) and you get a brick wall with guns. Lots of them.

You're right about the "removing" troll part though P
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-02-11 15:43:29 UTC
Another thread where a loser wants the game changed because he sucks.

Go figure.

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Freyya
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-02-11 15:46:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyya
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Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#28 - 2012-02-11 15:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alxea
This thread made me lmfao!!! irl

No mainly just this...

random dude: fleets up
random dude: go's into combat
random dude: loads grid
random dude: sees 15 titans & 50 support
random dude: sees his mail blinking after 20 sec
random dude: sits in pod
random dude: arrives at medical station
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#29 - 2012-02-11 15:50:33 UTC
nerf defender missiles

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-02-11 16:04:13 UTC
Titan blob + Bellicose = OMGWTFBBQ PWN all the things?

Please share with the rest of us what you have been smoking, it obviously is really good stuff.

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Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-02-11 16:27:21 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:
Titan blob + Bellicose = OMGWTFBBQ PWN all the things?

Please share with the rest of us what you have been smoking, it obviously is really good stuff.


i hate to agree with a goon but this

eve is about sin

Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-02-11 22:48:17 UTC
Gypsy RoseLee wrote:
Target Painter V in 17h 22m 32s

Eat it.


Im elite certed in painters in less than a day. I feel ya.
Revii Lagoon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-02-12 01:31:33 UTC
Step 1: Learn about MWD's and sig radius.
Step 2: Learn tracking Formula and how sig radius relates to it
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Complain on forums that Target Painters are OP.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#34 - 2012-02-12 02:11:41 UTC
20 TP huginns?
You are aware that tp are stacking penalized right. Mr. exaggerator?
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#35 - 2012-02-12 02:45:05 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:
Remove the target painter out of the game


Stopped caring there...

Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:
So pls nerf the Target Painter before you lose another 10k subscribers


You lost what little legitimacy there was to your post right there.

You don't remove something from the game just because one ship is overpowered because of it. Especially when said ship is billions of ISK in cost and the least used ship in the game.

Sorry...but no...if you want to fix titans so they can't abuse the module then fine.


While agree with your intent, I just wanted to point out that there are more titans in game than Black Ops.

CCP plz boost blops. Target Painters are fine.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#36 - 2012-02-12 02:58:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Fictional Hero wrote:
you have 50k people on a NAP list. your nap list also has a bunch of supers on it. instead of crying about it on these forums ask your leadership these questions.

1) where the super fleet and why its not being used?
(proudly displayed at the beginning of the branch invasion)
2) since maelstroms and drakes are not effective, why are we still using the same outdated fleet concept?

i know that will be hard for you to understand, you must fight through the cfc propaganda and use your mind.

Haha, even SPAIs know better than to ask where the titans are.

Besides, if titans are the new battleship, then of course the best response would be to use something else. (Tengu vs Drake all day ~)

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#37 - 2012-02-12 03:09:16 UTC
So the problem with Titans blowing up sub caps willy-nilly is nothing to do with tracking enhancers, tracking computers, low signature resolution of XL weapons, absurdly high tracking of XL weapons compared to size, and nothing to do with the 500% damage bonus that Titans get to weapon damage?

All this time it was just Target Painters?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2012-02-12 03:23:21 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
So the problem with Titans blowing up sub caps willy-nilly is nothing to do with tracking enhancers, tracking computers, low signature resolution of XL weapons, absurdly high tracking of XL weapons compared to size, and nothing to do with the 500% damage bonus that Titans get to weapon damage?

All this time it was just Target Painters?

Yes. Despite all the Titan-caused lossmails that had no target painters on them.

I think TPs show on killmails? ECM does.

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