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How did becoming rich change the game for you?
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Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-02-11 16:51:30 UTC
How about Philanthropy? There are so many new players all the time, and just a few million here and there would go so far to help them out. How much fun could be had with a Trillion handed out in small sums to a vast number of newer players? Imaging the hit to the market as all that ISK is spent at once. And there are some players who would truly appreciate a gift and put it to good use actually improving their character with wise expenditures of funds. Just a crazy thought.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#42 - 2012-02-11 17:25:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Forum ate my post, reposting later.

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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#43 - 2012-02-11 17:26:03 UTC
What it meant for me?

Stability mostly, not having to worry about next plexes that I need, and I get to save irl money which is always nice. Getting rich meant I could try out more in EVE. I've done the lowsec stuff, 0.0 stuff and ended up dualboxing carriers until supers became the new plaything.


Now I just relax, chat ingame, do my bpo business and generally play the market games. I feel like a retired person :P

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#44 - 2012-02-11 17:41:16 UTC
Breaker77 wrote:

I have to agree with all the above.

On a more personal note, once I achieved becoming "rich" I now no longer play EVE and just log in to change skills every so often. Once you learn the secrets to becoming a "billionaire" the drive to continue playing the game seems to decline. Sure you can always make more ISK, blow up more ships, lose more ships, buy the most expansive BPOs, ect... but the fun is gone.



It happened to me as well.

I have never cared to become e-rich to begin with, for me money is just a tool to do something else.
A tool I did not really need that much, as I had experienced a lot of EvE already.

Therefore once I passed a thresold of about 80B NAV I felt "done" with the game.

About Dec 2010 I decided it was time to pull the plug.

But when I was about to do that, a "revelation" struck me.

Vaerah, my Ideal Person I am not strong enough to be in RL, once again teached me a lesson, as she did with RL trading.

"What about you stop being a selfish meaningless cog in the mechanism and go beyond the sandbox walls?"
"What about you do something worthwhile in your e-life for once?"

And thus I created the VAERT Charity, something worth playing for, something worth making money for, something that can help for real. Since that day I am not *that* active in game but I feel motivated enough to keep playing it.
It's refreshing to know that the efforts won't be wasted but will have a real consequence - maybe even a real RL butterfly effect.


I know this text won't help most people who "won" EvE but maybe it could give motivation to 1-2 of them and keep them with us.

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Kris White
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-02-11 18:06:39 UTC
Cry

"Lifestyles of the rich and the famous
They're always complainin'
Always complainin'
If money is such a problem
Well they got mansions
Think we should rob them"
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-02-11 18:34:32 UTC
Hunng Ibruin wrote:
I decided to take up trading and manufacturing with a loan on certain items that had a great profit margin and I could sell over 500 a day. So I fired up my 9 slots and blasted out a crap ton of this item (each netting 40%+ profit). For 3 weeks now I watched my initial loan of 100m grow to over 15 billion as I trade, manufacture and do some PI stuff and now.....the game isn't fun. I currently have 9billion in materials pumping out things that will gain me constant returns. I've learned how to make unlimited isk and the urge to get into the game and do something has declined quite significantlyCry Sure I don't have the 100billion but so what, I personally feel the challenge is gone and there isn't much to do but blow it .

Of course one highlight of this isk is being able to completely crash 4 markets in Jita and Amarr while scoring some nice profit off da bots who stupidly followed my moves.


Yes I'm sure you magically found a high demand item with 40% manufacturing profit margin that almost no one knows about. Seems about as likely as needing a 100m loan while having a character with good trading, manufacturing and PI skills.
Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-02-11 19:36:36 UTC
Would it be fun for a few Trillionaires to Pauper themselves back down to 10 or 100 Billion, and then work their fortunes back up to a high level? To foster players of 6 months or more, in the form of ISK or PLEX. You gain the gratitude of a new following of friends, you get to have a chance to build a new fortune, and most of all you get re-involved with the game and have some FUN while you are at it.

Because FUN is the whole point to the game, Right?

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Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-02-11 21:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Buruk Utama
wallenbergaren wrote:
Hunng Ibruin wrote:
I decided to take up trading and manufacturing with a loan on certain items that had a great profit margin and I could sell over 500 a day. So I fired up my 9 slots and blasted out a crap ton of this item (each netting 40%+ profit). For 3 weeks now I watched my initial loan of 100m grow to over 15 billion as I trade, manufacture and do some PI stuff and now.....the game isn't fun. I currently have 9billion in materials pumping out things that will gain me constant returns. I've learned how to make unlimited isk and the urge to get into the game and do something has declined quite significantlyCry Sure I don't have the 100billion but so what, I personally feel the challenge is gone and there isn't much to do but blow it .

Of course one highlight of this isk is being able to completely crash 4 markets in Jita and Amarr while scoring some nice profit off da bots who stupidly followed my moves.


Yes I'm sure you magically found a high demand item with 40% manufacturing profit margin that almost no one knows about. Seems about as likely as needing a 100m loan while having a character with good trading, manufacturing and PI skills.


Actually that isn't hard to find 40-200% profit on high demands items if you know where/when to off load them. I will keep a stash of items I trade/manufacture until the weekend when the weekend warriors loadup. You'll see the price peek for pvp items on Friday through Sat and is a great time to offload at various pvp/low sec hubs. Of course it helps when you have a network of hauling partners that ensure your goods are at market at the right time.
Wookie 1
#49 - 2012-02-11 22:26:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Wookie 1
I feel I should interject here. Since I first began to play EVE in the May of 2009 slightly under (about 4.5 Billion), has passed through my wallet. Thats a cumalative total and I have played EVE actively since then. Now I'm not silly with my money (rarely at least). But, I feel another perspective here was needed.

Also for a further deliniation I have 170 Million ISk in wallet now and have probably never had any more than say 370-400 million. Assets wise 300 Million Scattered Around EVE (Mainly a 225 Million ISk BS I cannot sell)

My point here is not to say 'hey look at me I'm poor' it is just to point out that some of the sums even mentioned here are massively rich to my eyes. I suppose Rich just changes on what you see I suppose.

How would becoming Rich change the game for me, well I dont really know. But if I had to guess I'd suggest the game would become better as I would no longer lose a couple of ships in PvP and have a massive ISk Panic.

I suspect that my view on this probably says more about my deficiency in any understanding of how ISk can be made in any real amount than about any shockingly profound point though.
Officer Nyota Uhura
#50 - 2012-02-12 18:44:30 UTC
Funny, I never thought I was rich, but if 5bil is rich, and I have hundred times that, I guess I am rich. Doesn't feel like that, though. How the hundred billion mark affected the game - I've stopped thinking about ISK. There's a constant flow with minimal effort so not much thinking about it. If you can replace your supercarrier pretty easily it changes your attitude to gameplay. I can't fly a titan and couldn't replace it easily (not that much liquid cash), so that one would still hurt. I still have some way to go, I guess.
Brock Nelson
#51 - 2012-02-12 19:00:57 UTC
It turned me into a ****

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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#52 - 2012-02-12 19:05:01 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
It turned me into a ****


Confirming Brock turned into a ****

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Adunh Slavy
#53 - 2012-02-12 22:47:58 UTC
Billionaire Carebear wrote:
How about Philanthropy? There are so many new players all the time, and just a few million here and there would go so far to help them out.



That makes the game less interesting for new players. Half the fun is trying to get ahead. Look at the title of this thread.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Wookie 1
#54 - 2012-02-12 22:55:30 UTC
If Philanthropy is being offered though. I would gladly accept :p.
rob3r
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#55 - 2012-02-13 04:26:56 UTC
I just broke the 10B mark and I feel pretty smug about that, but I still need a lot more in order to reach some of my goals.

As the #2 guy in Test I know a fair bit about the politics of 0.0, so if I ever became a trillionaire I am sure I could have quite a bit of fun moving the mid level alliances around the map like chess pieces.

I know it has been done by guys like Horus, but it doesn't seem to happen as often as I think it would. So for you trillionaires out there looking for something fun to do, that might be something to think about.

If that sounds like too much effort, just buy Rifters. Always need more Rifters.
malaire
#56 - 2012-02-13 08:31:38 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Billionaire Carebear wrote:
How about Philanthropy? There are so many new players all the time, and just a few million here and there would go so far to help them out.


That makes the game less interesting for new players. Half the fun is trying to get ahead. Look at the title of this thread.

When I help new players, I quite often also offer some starting cash - 1-5 million usually. Allmost everyone declines because they want to get that by themselves.

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Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-02-13 16:00:59 UTC
There was a sale on plex yesterday, $5 off 2, sold for 455 mil each. And this morning R&D agents will now talk to me, so I can start to do things that will earn me ISK. Does rich count if you use RL cash to buy ISK?

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#58 - 2012-02-13 16:32:47 UTC
Billionaire Carebear wrote:
There was a sale on plex yesterday, $5 off 2, sold for 455 mil each. And this morning R&D agents will now talk to me, so I can start to do things that will earn me ISK. Does rich count if you use RL cash to buy ISK?


It's your sandbox and your game.

In my own sandbox, if I had to turn PLEX into ISK I'd feel I failed at business and am cheating to myself. But that's just me.

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Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-02-13 17:26:02 UTC
I don't mind spending money to learn how to make ISK, in the beginning. I will learn how to earn ISK, and get rich, and that is why this thread interests me. However, I have been rather disappointed in the replies so far of what people have done with their fortunes. I believe in playing the game - not hoarding the game's resources. I suppose that I have been too generous handing out millions to fellow miners and giving gratuities in-game to people who help me out. So after 8 months I am just getting out of mining and into research, though I think if I want to MAKE a fortune it is in the market. For me, I get enjoyment from positive interaction with other players in-game, and want to find a way to funnel my profits to the less fortunate. I find that it is the 'getting' and not the 'having' that is fun, so even once I learn how to earn ISK hand over fist - I still wont have any, cause I will give it all away.

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2012-02-14 04:53:36 UTC
I bought that luxury yact off the married couple and FC my bought mercenary hordes from it.