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Incursions and their effect on RMT
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Inanna NiKunni
BlackBongWater
#21 - 2012-02-07 16:20:43 UTC
So back to the original topic - Do you guys think incursions have an effect on RMT?
Citizen Smif
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-02-07 16:45:17 UTC
Yawn.. Incursions.. Yawn.. Plex.
Grenouielle
#23 - 2012-02-07 19:13:08 UTC
Inanna NiKunni wrote:
So back to the original topic - Do you guys think incursions have an effect on RMT?



No.

And...yawn.
Cable Udan
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#24 - 2012-02-07 19:50:49 UTC
StonerPhReaK wrote:
Ahh the perfect song comes to mind when i read the OP

Wait for it.


Clicked link hoping to be rickrolled.

Left disappointed.
Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-02-07 19:53:42 UTC
This thread disappoints me.
GreenSeed
#26 - 2012-02-07 23:22:51 UTC
Symantha Kata wrote:
I really should have known better....
You never win an argument with an idiot!

"PLEX for ISK is not isk selling or buying is paying for gameplay that you will not pay in another way."

That's gold.....

Translation:

"Paying $15 for an item you will sell for 400-500 mil ISK Is not buying ISK"

Or:

"Paying RL $ for ISK is not buying ISK"


Let me get this straight.... Me buying a PLEX from CCP and then selling it ingame for ISK is not Buying ISK???

The fact you seem to know how to operate a keyboard astounds me.. I figured you'd have trouble scratching yourself...



im guessing you think youre clever with your logic, but its flawed.

that argument has already been debunked many times, in fact, it has been dismissed as many times as this thread has been created.

"buying isk" can ONLY happen if i pay an x amnt of real currency for an Y amnt of Isk. that NEVER happened. what you buy with money is game time that ppl decide to pay for with their gameplay.
the isk you get by selling what you bought with RL currency is ISK from bounties or mission rewards. so all youre paying for is the item ppl are willing to pay for. whats more important, Plex in no way grants any advantage so you cant really call it an "item", its "gametime".

literally thousands of other players like you voiced your same argument. eventually they all saw that making the jump from "buying plex" to "buying ISK" has no logic. once that became clear they went back to gate camping and stroking their e-peens. from what i read youre quite adamant on your argument, i hope you see the difference. if you dont, you'll be just slamming your head against a wall. plex wont go away, because it makes sence.

nothing on eve can be created out of nowhere... now AUR could potentially change that, but thats another discussion.
eddie valvetino
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-02-08 14:35:00 UTC
Tian Nu wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Tian Nu wrote:

CCP sell isk now i smell another jita burning.



Not new, or shocking.


i missed that news care to point it ? ty


let me spell it out for you P.L.E.X. = CCP "selling isk"

old news, nothing to see here, move along
Rasz Lin
#28 - 2012-02-08 15:05:59 UTC
BOTs do incursion too, you know ...
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#29 - 2012-02-09 12:46:11 UTC
I feel stupider for reading this post... Sad
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-02-09 13:58:54 UTC
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
You act like incursions are so easy to do that everyone can do them. You are wrong


They really are.

I've only ever done vanguards but if you're half way decent in a bs you can do them.
You just need to find a fleet which isn't that hard.
Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#31 - 2012-02-11 13:25:32 UTC
Inanna NiKunni wrote:
A few interesting observations stolen from another thread:


"People don't need to buy ISK from RMTers anymore - they can just run incursions.

People don't need to run multiple bots to generate decent income - they can just run incursions.

People with real life money to spend, can just buy isk from CCP, 500 mil for 15 bucks is much better than 350, and there is no risk."

Do we really want CCP to force Krissada's views on the community or keep things sand boxy and leave incursions alone.
My personal opinion is that Krissada should do her own dirty work and leave CCP out of it.




This is more like nerf the blobs troll thread. Because lets face it, any noob can make billions by being in a fleet with 50 people owning rats all day with god mode logic's repping them up. The problem is not really incursions. CCP rewards players for forming together and using teamwork to make stupid amounts of isk when they really don't.

Incursions are not soloed, they are owned by dozens of people in a gang. This argument can be applied to anyplace in eve. In fact some places in 0.0 are so safe they are safer then highsec because they are so heavily guarded by players.

What I say is... allow incursions highsec space to change sec status to 0.0 levels while an incursion is active. Then let there be free for all battles with no concord and all the bloody risk to have had! I for one would enjoy that. Kill the bears!
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-02-11 15:31:03 UTC
I've always seen it as CCP selling transferable Game Time.

We are the ones who put the ISK price on it.

I lied :o
Brock Nelson
#33 - 2012-02-12 01:27:44 UTC
Gary Bell wrote:
I feel stupider for reading this post... Sad


Aye

Signature removed, CCP Phantom
Xylorn Hasher
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-02-12 01:31:26 UTC
Rasz Lin wrote:
BOTs do incursion too, you know ...



Listen to him. He knows what he talking about.


Also Hi Rash :)

All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana consumption.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#35 - 2012-02-15 21:56:21 UTC
Krissada wrote:
CCP are already working on balancing and changing incursions for the better.
My work here is done for now Smile.



So they say but if you believe them then you're a bigger fool then I already take you to be :P
So when exactly will these 'fixes' take place that your work did? Rmember the effed up invulnerable MOM ship that was going to make Incursions last longer??? I bet your work will make the situation worse because of unintended consequences which CCP all to often blunders into
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
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